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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7903117" data-attributes="member: 83242">Well there type still becomes "fiend" not fallen angle.  We may know them as fallen angles because the fiends want you to know.  Perhaps celestial are not so proud and the success of turning a fiend to good is reward enough. The point is simply that we know devils can change without ceasing to exist.  You specifically quoted that devils that are no longer Lawful Evil cease to be devils.  You understood that to mean they cease to exist.  However, Graz'zt changed from Lawful Evil to Chaotic Evil and he didn't cease to exist, he became a demon (lord) instead.  It was an example that in the 5e fiction, devils don't cease to exist when they are no longer lawful evil, they become something else instead.</blockquote>