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<blockquote data-quote="Jaelommiss" data-source="post: 6831965" data-attributes="member: 6775925"><p>Normally I wouldn't give advice like this, but since they decided as players to screw with the DM, they have implicitly given consent for the DM to screw with them in the same way. Others have touched on how to deal with the paladin as a paladin, so I'll focus on some other ways you could dissuade the party from repeating this.</p><p></p><p>Does the contract specify what form the payment takes? If not, 300pp could be legitimately interpreted as a value, and as such could be paid in virtually any form so long as it has that value. </p><p></p><p>When the party returns I would have the lord pay them 300gp in coins promptly and with no hesitation. When the party asks for more and shows him the contract, he will ask for time (a day or two) to sort out payment, and ask for the 300gp back so that he can make payment in a single lump sum.</p><p></p><p>The town's lord no doubt has someone in his employ who appraises property value. Nighthill commands him to appraise a 1 square foot section of field on the outskirts of town, with an undocumented command to give it a value of 300pp. The party is awarded this single square foot of land. The land is then reappraised.</p><p></p><p>The lord finds an old bench from down in the dungeons. It is estimated to be well over 200 years old. The party is given this 'antique' as payment. </p><p></p><p>The party is given 300pp worth of bedroom rental in the castle. At 10gp per night per room, they are awarded 300 room-nights. Given a party of 4 PCs, that is 75 days of room and board. Yes, those days count down when they are absent.</p><p></p><p>Did the contract specify WHEN payment would be made? If not, then it could be delayed indefinitely. The lord will pay them 300pp in the next life.</p><p></p><p>And, of course, for being a bunch of charlatans the lord will declare that the town is in a state of emergency and can confiscate anything from anyone in town for the good of the town. Yes, that includes the PCs, their hard earned loot, their weapons and armour, their holy symbols, their magic foci, etc. The PCs will only be told this when they are alone, and two dozen guards will be present to enforce it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Really hammer home that messing with people with political and social power is a VERY BAD idea if you don't want this happening again.</p><p></p><p>Would it be possible to get a copy of the contract? I'd really like to see how else it can be twisted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelommiss, post: 6831965, member: 6775925"] Normally I wouldn't give advice like this, but since they decided as players to screw with the DM, they have implicitly given consent for the DM to screw with them in the same way. Others have touched on how to deal with the paladin as a paladin, so I'll focus on some other ways you could dissuade the party from repeating this. Does the contract specify what form the payment takes? If not, 300pp could be legitimately interpreted as a value, and as such could be paid in virtually any form so long as it has that value. When the party returns I would have the lord pay them 300gp in coins promptly and with no hesitation. When the party asks for more and shows him the contract, he will ask for time (a day or two) to sort out payment, and ask for the 300gp back so that he can make payment in a single lump sum. The town's lord no doubt has someone in his employ who appraises property value. Nighthill commands him to appraise a 1 square foot section of field on the outskirts of town, with an undocumented command to give it a value of 300pp. The party is awarded this single square foot of land. The land is then reappraised. The lord finds an old bench from down in the dungeons. It is estimated to be well over 200 years old. The party is given this 'antique' as payment. The party is given 300pp worth of bedroom rental in the castle. At 10gp per night per room, they are awarded 300 room-nights. Given a party of 4 PCs, that is 75 days of room and board. Yes, those days count down when they are absent. Did the contract specify WHEN payment would be made? If not, then it could be delayed indefinitely. The lord will pay them 300pp in the next life. And, of course, for being a bunch of charlatans the lord will declare that the town is in a state of emergency and can confiscate anything from anyone in town for the good of the town. Yes, that includes the PCs, their hard earned loot, their weapons and armour, their holy symbols, their magic foci, etc. The PCs will only be told this when they are alone, and two dozen guards will be present to enforce it. Really hammer home that messing with people with political and social power is a VERY BAD idea if you don't want this happening again. Would it be possible to get a copy of the contract? I'd really like to see how else it can be twisted. [/QUOTE]
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