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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5870758" data-attributes="member: 59506">Okey dokey... Poisons:  There are lots of different poisons, with varying lethality.  And a poison's effect is incredibly variable (dosage, body weight of target, constitution/fortitude of target, mode of exposure, etc.)  Also, very few poisons kill immediately unless exposed to massive doses.  In the real world, people survive poisonings all the time, sometimes even without medical attention.  So I'm cool with it being modeled through Hit Point loss or Ability damage based on a random Fortitude Check (or Constitution Check in D&D Next). Acid:  Again, this is a variable threat.  If it's a pool of acid, then see the rules for Lava (in other words, Death and nothing but Death<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />).  That is if a Reflex (Dexterity) check is failed to keep from falling in.  An Acid attack however (splashing, spray, etc.) is just Hit Point damage (IMO). Fire:  Fire also is variable.  It depends on the time of exposure, the heat of the fire, mitigating objects, clothing, or a shield, etc.  Fire isn't usually immediately lethal (which is why death by burning was such an absolutely horrible punishment).  So in this case also, Hit Point damage works just fine for me. As to a Giant's club (as I think somebody mentioned earlier), I think the damage potential should be much higher than typically represented.  But getting lucky and not suffering maximum Hit Point damage from such an attack is a reasonable outcome.  There are a ton of variables in any weapon attack.  Even a the attack from a Giant's club.  So variable damage potential, modeled by Hit Points also works. But Lava (falling onto lava, as one cannot fall into lava) is almost certainly instant death.  Either a save or die effect, or massive damage potential (determined each round...if saved before you're out of Hit Points, then you live - though you'd likely wished you'd died). And Falling Damage, based on real world consequences, falls of 50 feet are about 50% fatal, with the chances of survival quickly diminishing to practically zero very quickly.  So, I'd want damage that scales up exponentially, or a percentage check for survivability (like 90% at 10 feet, 80% at 20 feet, 50% at 50 feet, 40% at 60 feet, 10% at 90 feet, and 99% at 100 feet or more...believe it or not, that's actually better odds than real life).  Or even use both together. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses    B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></blockquote>

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