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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5871846" data-attributes="member: 22779">Well, if by "near that far" you mean about 1980 when I started playing, then, I guess you'd be right.Point is, BryonD, you're actually mistaken here.  You said that in earlier editions, if you looked at a medusa you turned to stone.  This was never true in any edition of the game and this point was hammered home pretty thoroughly with actual quotes from nearly every edition of the game.So, fine, if you want to house rule that staring at a medusa turns you to stone, then more power to you.  But, don't pretend that this is how the game was written.  It wasn't.  It never was.  This is only your interpretation of things.In the same way, my character, in any edition, can drink a bottle of poison, the deadliest poison known in that world, and if I roll my saving throw, I survive.  Now, since a 1 always fails a save in 3e, you'd always have a 5% chance of dying, but, if my fort bonus is higher than the save DC, I can drink that bottle several more times without the slightest effect.Now, you might not like those rules and you might want to change them.  No problem, that's great.  But, again, THAT'S what D&D says.  There's nothing there about abrogating a saving throw, nor does that appear anywhere in D&D.It's not a bad house rule and probably one I'd agree with.  But, it's still not what the game says.AFAIC, I don't ever worry about things like this because it's never come up and I doubt it ever will.  I'm of the opinion that we really don't need mechanics for extreme corner case situations.  That's what DM's are for.</blockquote>

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