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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5873396" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>We already went through this Hussar. I agree that you can apply a thoughtless application of the rules in an absence of intent and completely go sideways with the experience. And I'll also point out that there are countless other comments in the DMG, throughout Dragon Magazine, and many other resources that describe, defend, and embrace as fundamental to every rule in the game that intent and rational application are paramount.</p><p></p><p>There is NO basis whatsoever for thinking that actually ever intentionally looking at Medusa would do anything other than turn you to stone. The rules didn't find a need to explain that, particularly given that the concept of over-riding intent is so frequently made clear. The rules PRESUME an effort to avoid. And, before this "recent era" I've mentioned NO ONE I ever games with in a situation of this type even CONSIDERED it an option to do otherwise. </p><p></p><p>You are putting what amounts to an abuse of the rules over any effort to create a quality narrative. And I think there is ZERO coincidence that you complain over and over about bad experiences you have with other players. And I think there is ZERO coincidence that you are the one calling your own game experience "ludicrous". I've reach the point that I'm convinced that you are completely blind and unaware of what the game experience *I* seek and routinely enjoy is even about. </p><p></p><p>I don't know what you want and it makes no difference. I hope your games are as fun as you can make them. But I also am certain your comments are virtually irrelevant to the kind of amazing experience I know can happen. And certainly even remotely suggesting that my experiences are slightly "ludicrous" is unfathomable, much less calling that fish in a barrel. </p><p></p><p>But keep that in mind when you struggle to grasp the disconnect between what you talk about and others achieve.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait.... </p><p>Ok, and if it did come up, as a DM what would you do?</p><p>Is a staring contest with Medusa any less of a corner case?</p><p></p><p>Which position are you taking?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5873396, member: 957"] We already went through this Hussar. I agree that you can apply a thoughtless application of the rules in an absence of intent and completely go sideways with the experience. And I'll also point out that there are countless other comments in the DMG, throughout Dragon Magazine, and many other resources that describe, defend, and embrace as fundamental to every rule in the game that intent and rational application are paramount. There is NO basis whatsoever for thinking that actually ever intentionally looking at Medusa would do anything other than turn you to stone. The rules didn't find a need to explain that, particularly given that the concept of over-riding intent is so frequently made clear. The rules PRESUME an effort to avoid. And, before this "recent era" I've mentioned NO ONE I ever games with in a situation of this type even CONSIDERED it an option to do otherwise. You are putting what amounts to an abuse of the rules over any effort to create a quality narrative. And I think there is ZERO coincidence that you complain over and over about bad experiences you have with other players. And I think there is ZERO coincidence that you are the one calling your own game experience "ludicrous". I've reach the point that I'm convinced that you are completely blind and unaware of what the game experience *I* seek and routinely enjoy is even about. I don't know what you want and it makes no difference. I hope your games are as fun as you can make them. But I also am certain your comments are virtually irrelevant to the kind of amazing experience I know can happen. And certainly even remotely suggesting that my experiences are slightly "ludicrous" is unfathomable, much less calling that fish in a barrel. But keep that in mind when you struggle to grasp the disconnect between what you talk about and others achieve. Wait.... Ok, and if it did come up, as a DM what would you do? Is a staring contest with Medusa any less of a corner case? Which position are you taking? [/QUOTE]
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