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Message: <blockquote data-quote="triqui" data-source="post: 5877856" data-attributes="member: 57948">That's the point. Manticores are, and should be, more dangerous than 12 militia. That's why when a pair of manticores terrorize a village, the mayor calls adventurers. Becouse the local militia *cant* take the manticores down, because they are not threat enough. The problem is not that much the AC, but the HP. A naked Dex 10 fighter can take 12 crossbow guards and kill them all once he is about level 12 or so, unless they are sniping him from the top of a tower. He just take the hits, charge, and make a carnage. Yes, he will take a few more hits. But that will only make the situation less believeable. At leaste when they were failing against his full plate +3 and ring of protection +2, you could explain it as the magical armor protecting him. Naked, he just take the hits, and win. So, in your opinion, ranged weapons should be inherently superior to melee? How would that balance with the characters? Wouldn't that make archer rangers inherently superior to twf rangers (or barbarians, for that matter)? Because you are high level badass. Beowulf fought a sea monster, under the sea, for a week. Holding his breath. Achilles moved a river with his *anger*. Finarfin wasn't concerned about poisonous venoms from balors, that could kill an elephant.  *I* can't drink poison. But *I* am not an epic hero from an epic tale. Sigfrid could easily drink poison. Or Cuchulain. I'm sure a regular poison would not kill Elrond.  That's because you are trying to envision high level play with a low level metagame. Aragorn is 5th level. He *wont* drink poison, because he will die. Achiles is 20th level. They needed to prepare a very specific poison to kill him (the hydra's blood), because anything else wouldn't work. Achilles is too damn high level. In Hindu epic tale, Duryodhana poisoned Bhima with poison fealed *feast* and Bhima survived just because he was to strong for the poison. The problem is you are trying to fit Conan and Jon Snow into high level epic tales of ancient heroes. It doesn't work that way. Achilles could kill Jon Snow, the entire Night's Watch and Winterfell's guard without being touched once. Hercules could siege Aquilonia alone, as he did with Troy.  Bhima killed elephant *armies* using a mace.</blockquote>

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