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<blockquote data-quote="triqui" data-source="post: 5885336" data-attributes="member: 57948"><p>You keep *trying* to rationalize things. If that works for your selective blindness, fair game. If that's how you want to delude yourself, fair game. But don't try to tell us that your version is "more logic" or "more common sense", because it is not. A Tyrannosaurus Rex that bites a man in the arm kills him too. Instantly. Traumatic dismemberment does kill people you know. There was a kind of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismemberment" target="_blank">execution </a>that worked like that. And there's no way a normal human being can be chewed by a 10' jaw with more than 3000 pound force pressure and remain attached to the body. It's as much impossible as it is to survive 100' fall, or more. Same goes with a 10ton creature landing on you from the skies, even if it is in your arm or leg.</p><p></p><p>Fact is: you *want* to believe D&D is realistic, although it is not, by any means. So when you see something you feel it is not realistic, like falling 100' and surviving, you rule it out, which is fine if that suits your style. When you find some other thing that isn't realistic, but that you CANT rule out because it simply destroys the game playability (like dragons instantly killing any human sized character they bite), your brain take the option to selectively blind yourself instead. You rationalize it, you skip it, you simply look to other side and prettend the incoherence is not there. But that's false, it's selective blindness. Your character WAS crushed by a dragon, who then DID snatch him with his giantsized claw, and then MOVED it to a 10' giantsized jaw with thousands of pounds in force, and CHEWED it, and firebreathing him with molten fire that is hotter than pure lava. Then he flied into the skies, drop him from mere 100', and suddenly your brain jumps and claim "THAT'S UNBELIABLE!!! HOW COULD A HUMAN BEING SURVIVE THAT FALL". If it works for you, that's ok. But I find it quite hilarious, to be honest.</p><p></p><p> Because he is a high level heroes. Heroes survive incredible damage all the time. Why on hell should a stupid fall kill Gandalf? He is able to fight for *weeks* against a giant sized demon that spread hot flames, and you care about falling damage? Beowulf fought one week underwater, holding his breath. Cuchulain eyes were sucked into his skull when he raged, and the warp spasm was so strong that his feet turned backwards. Several times. Why would something as stupid as a fall will damage them?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Like this, 50''</p><p></p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Azykolhz4]"Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up." [Batman music video] - YouTube[/ame]</p><p></p><p>Like this, in 1'30'':</p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZXw9LgQiRE]Fall For You (Bruce Wayne x Rachel Dawes --- The Dark Knight) - YouTube[/ame]</p><p></p><p>Like this:</p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdk3b7sHdPA]"The Fugitive" (1993) - Inappropriate Soundtracks - YouTube[/ame]</p><p></p><p>Or like this, 2'30'':</p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuX0BuHp2w&feature=related]Underworld 1 2003 Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]</p><p></p><p>Or like this:</p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66imrid90UM&feature=related]Gandalf vs. Balrog Epic Battle 1080p - YouTube[/ame]</p><p></p><p>Or like this, 0,18'':</p><p>[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwyLbX4uOS0&feature=relmfu]Sin City (6/12) Movie CLIP - Miho vs. Jackie Boy (2005) HD - YouTube[/ame]</p><p></p><p>It's not like surviving a fall is hard at all for heroes, isn't it? They do so in a regular basis.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As much as they are to decide if your character survive being crushed, then snatch, then chewed by a 10 ton giant winged firrbreathing lizard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="triqui, post: 5885336, member: 57948"] You keep *trying* to rationalize things. If that works for your selective blindness, fair game. If that's how you want to delude yourself, fair game. But don't try to tell us that your version is "more logic" or "more common sense", because it is not. A Tyrannosaurus Rex that bites a man in the arm kills him too. Instantly. Traumatic dismemberment does kill people you know. There was a kind of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismemberment"]execution [/URL]that worked like that. And there's no way a normal human being can be chewed by a 10' jaw with more than 3000 pound force pressure and remain attached to the body. It's as much impossible as it is to survive 100' fall, or more. Same goes with a 10ton creature landing on you from the skies, even if it is in your arm or leg. Fact is: you *want* to believe D&D is realistic, although it is not, by any means. So when you see something you feel it is not realistic, like falling 100' and surviving, you rule it out, which is fine if that suits your style. When you find some other thing that isn't realistic, but that you CANT rule out because it simply destroys the game playability (like dragons instantly killing any human sized character they bite), your brain take the option to selectively blind yourself instead. You rationalize it, you skip it, you simply look to other side and prettend the incoherence is not there. But that's false, it's selective blindness. Your character WAS crushed by a dragon, who then DID snatch him with his giantsized claw, and then MOVED it to a 10' giantsized jaw with thousands of pounds in force, and CHEWED it, and firebreathing him with molten fire that is hotter than pure lava. Then he flied into the skies, drop him from mere 100', and suddenly your brain jumps and claim "THAT'S UNBELIABLE!!! HOW COULD A HUMAN BEING SURVIVE THAT FALL". If it works for you, that's ok. But I find it quite hilarious, to be honest. Because he is a high level heroes. Heroes survive incredible damage all the time. Why on hell should a stupid fall kill Gandalf? He is able to fight for *weeks* against a giant sized demon that spread hot flames, and you care about falling damage? Beowulf fought one week underwater, holding his breath. Cuchulain eyes were sucked into his skull when he raged, and the warp spasm was so strong that his feet turned backwards. Several times. Why would something as stupid as a fall will damage them? Like this, 50'' [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Azykolhz4]"Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up." [Batman music video] - YouTube[/ame] Like this, in 1'30'': [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZXw9LgQiRE]Fall For You (Bruce Wayne x Rachel Dawes --- The Dark Knight) - YouTube[/ame] Like this: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdk3b7sHdPA]"The Fugitive" (1993) - Inappropriate Soundtracks - YouTube[/ame] Or like this, 2'30'': [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuX0BuHp2w&feature=related]Underworld 1 2003 Part 1 - YouTube[/ame] Or like this: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66imrid90UM&feature=related]Gandalf vs. Balrog Epic Battle 1080p - YouTube[/ame] Or like this, 0,18'': [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwyLbX4uOS0&feature=relmfu]Sin City (6/12) Movie CLIP - Miho vs. Jackie Boy (2005) HD - YouTube[/ame] It's not like surviving a fall is hard at all for heroes, isn't it? They do so in a regular basis. As much as they are to decide if your character survive being crushed, then snatch, then chewed by a 10 ton giant winged firrbreathing lizard. [/QUOTE]
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