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<blockquote data-quote="Shazman" data-source="post: 5046518" data-attributes="member: 13509"><p>Just to add my 2 cents. I understand where the OP is coming from and share many of his sentiments. I have played a significant amount of LFR since last spring. I did it mainly to get my playing fix, since I had DMing duties for a while in my regualr gaiming group, and was itching to play instead of DM. In some ways it's a good way to get somewhat of a gaming fix for a while, but it doesn't seem conducive to long term gaming. One of the chief problems I have with 4E is the insane length of combats. I have recently started playing Pathfinder Society, and am amazed that you can finish a Pathfinder Society module in almost half the time that you can finish an LFR module for characters of the same level even though they are both supposed to take 4 hours to play through. In reality the the LFR modules take 6 or more hours to complete, while the PFS modules seem to take 3 1/2 to 4 hours. The main reason for this desparity is how long it takes to grind through 4E combat encounters even if the PCs have the upper hand through the whole encounter. I am also unimpressed with the blandness of magic items and powers. Magic items in 4E are anything but "magic". The lack of customization, even with the plethora of 4E classes and muticlassing feats, also gets under my skin. It may get better with the finalized hybrid rules in PHB3, but 3 PHB's is a long time to wait for a complete game. In short, find a game that fits your style the best, and change what you need to make it work for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shazman, post: 5046518, member: 13509"] Just to add my 2 cents. I understand where the OP is coming from and share many of his sentiments. I have played a significant amount of LFR since last spring. I did it mainly to get my playing fix, since I had DMing duties for a while in my regualr gaiming group, and was itching to play instead of DM. In some ways it's a good way to get somewhat of a gaming fix for a while, but it doesn't seem conducive to long term gaming. One of the chief problems I have with 4E is the insane length of combats. I have recently started playing Pathfinder Society, and am amazed that you can finish a Pathfinder Society module in almost half the time that you can finish an LFR module for characters of the same level even though they are both supposed to take 4 hours to play through. In reality the the LFR modules take 6 or more hours to complete, while the PFS modules seem to take 3 1/2 to 4 hours. The main reason for this desparity is how long it takes to grind through 4E combat encounters even if the PCs have the upper hand through the whole encounter. I am also unimpressed with the blandness of magic items and powers. Magic items in 4E are anything but "magic". The lack of customization, even with the plethora of 4E classes and muticlassing feats, also gets under my skin. It may get better with the finalized hybrid rules in PHB3, but 3 PHB's is a long time to wait for a complete game. In short, find a game that fits your style the best, and change what you need to make it work for you. [/QUOTE]
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