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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5046693" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Lots of great responses—too many to reply to, so I’ll just focus on a few.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Yes and no. This reminds me of how my wife and I have moved a bunch of times in the ten years we've been together and never seem to settle into one spot for more than a year or two without getting antsy. On one hand we know that, to quote Ram Dass, "Wherever you go, there you are," meaning, you can't escape yourself and the primary factor in being happy in any place is internal, it is "the right mindset." But there are other factors, like the place itself. So it is a balance. On one hand, the main thing is how you use it, but on the other, what it is is important.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">But I do agree that we have an enormous amount of freedom and power in optimizing what is before us, and in the context of 4ed--or any edition of D&D--this involves flavoring the soup how we like it. The deli factor might play into WotC: most delis under-salt food so that people can salt it to their own taste.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It is good advice that I agree with, which is why I'm dabbling with creating my own "D&D: Mercurius' Ultimate Edition."</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Thanks Lost Soul, this is EXACTLY what I was trying to get at in terms of my problem with the Power system in 4E. Of course you can still use page 42, but the Powers make it easy not to. I’ve been trying to encourage my players to “do something cool” and I think Piratecat’s system will go a long way to helping that.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">On one level I agree with the nostalgia, or at least that it plays a major part. However, what you point at is what could be called the “deeper potential” of human imagination. A child’s imagination is awake and vital, while most adults’ are sleeping. Yet when an adult’s imagination wakes up and is taken seriously—is engaged in fully—it is truly a magical thing. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Beyond the Great Wall lies a Realm of Infinite Wonders…</em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">No doubt! It sounds like we’re on the same page—we’ll have to compare our personal “Definite Versions of D&D.”</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I’m surprised no one took up the points of your provocative, but excellent post.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This is well put.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Again, really nicely put.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I might not feel quite as strongly as you do about this, but I think there is a lot of truth to what you say.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 5046693, member: 59082"] [FONT=Verdana]Lots of great responses—too many to reply to, so I’ll just focus on a few. Yes and no. This reminds me of how my wife and I have moved a bunch of times in the ten years we've been together and never seem to settle into one spot for more than a year or two without getting antsy. On one hand we know that, to quote Ram Dass, "Wherever you go, there you are," meaning, you can't escape yourself and the primary factor in being happy in any place is internal, it is "the right mindset." But there are other factors, like the place itself. So it is a balance. On one hand, the main thing is how you use it, but on the other, what it is is important. But I do agree that we have an enormous amount of freedom and power in optimizing what is before us, and in the context of 4ed--or any edition of D&D--this involves flavoring the soup how we like it. The deli factor might play into WotC: most delis under-salt food so that people can salt it to their own taste. It is good advice that I agree with, which is why I'm dabbling with creating my own "D&D: Mercurius' Ultimate Edition." [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Thanks Lost Soul, this is EXACTLY what I was trying to get at in terms of my problem with the Power system in 4E. Of course you can still use page 42, but the Powers make it easy not to. I’ve been trying to encourage my players to “do something cool” and I think Piratecat’s system will go a long way to helping that. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]On one level I agree with the nostalgia, or at least that it plays a major part. However, what you point at is what could be called the “deeper potential” of human imagination. A child’s imagination is awake and vital, while most adults’ are sleeping. Yet when an adult’s imagination wakes up and is taken seriously—is engaged in fully—it is truly a magical thing. [I]Beyond the Great Wall lies a Realm of Infinite Wonders…[/I] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] No doubt! It sounds like we’re on the same page—we’ll have to compare our personal “Definite Versions of D&D.” [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I’m surprised no one took up the points of your provocative, but excellent post. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]This is well put. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Again, really nicely put. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I might not feel quite as strongly as you do about this, but I think there is a lot of truth to what you say. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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