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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5051859" data-attributes="member: 957">No, I'm following on to the comment I already made an you replied to.&nbsp;Thats pretty much a non sequitur there.&nbsp; You seem to have forgotten that we are only talking about situations not covered by the rules wherein the DM must make a call.&nbsp; So the idea that this calls for something for every possible action is already out of contact with the point.&nbsp; But then beyond that, for your statement to hold one must presume that every DM ruling is suddenly unique.&nbsp; Disagreeing with your defense of one page of text being a one sizes fits all solutions in no way claims that there is no consistency in the rulings.&nbsp; It was a total red herring.&nbsp; Exactly, which is why I don't like trying to say that the answers are on one page.&nbsp; Thanks for agreeing.Again, if you constrain yourself to DMs that need help, I've got no dispute. But either the DM learns and thus comes over to my side of the debate, no longer needing help and no longer seeing one page of solution as the way to go, or the DM doesn't learn.&nbsp; The latter case speaks for itself.REALLY?&nbsp; So you can say that a terrible game is good just because it is run by a good DM?&nbsp; I'm not talking about a good DM making a fun experience with a terrible system.&nbsp; I'm talking about declaring the mechanics themselves to be of high quality.But you are wrong because your game makes puppies cry.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /> Come on, that wasn't even a response you offered there.&nbsp; So you think a bunch of confusing subsystems that you have to keep going back to is a bad thing and story and action is fun?&nbsp; Gee.&nbsp; And once that man knows how to fish, he will stop going back to page 42 and agree with me.&nbsp; Or, he might just keep going back to pg 42 for the free fish and never really learn.&nbsp; Either way my way looks vasty better to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5051859, member: 957"] No, I'm following on to the comment I already made an you replied to. Thats pretty much a non sequitur there. You seem to have forgotten that we are only talking about situations not covered by the rules wherein the DM must make a call. So the idea that this calls for something for every possible action is already out of contact with the point. But then beyond that, for your statement to hold one must presume that every DM ruling is suddenly unique. Disagreeing with your defense of one page of text being a one sizes fits all solutions in no way claims that there is no consistency in the rulings. It was a total red herring. Exactly, which is why I don't like trying to say that the answers are on one page. Thanks for agreeing. Again, if you constrain yourself to DMs that need help, I've got no dispute. But either the DM learns and thus comes over to my side of the debate, no longer needing help and no longer seeing one page of solution as the way to go, or the DM doesn't learn. The latter case speaks for itself. REALLY? So you can say that a terrible game is good just because it is run by a good DM? I'm not talking about a good DM making a fun experience with a terrible system. I'm talking about declaring the mechanics themselves to be of high quality. But you are wrong because your game makes puppies cry. :erm: Come on, that wasn't even a response you offered there. So you think a bunch of [b]confusing[/b] subsystems that you have to keep going back to is a bad thing and story and action is fun? Gee. And once that man knows how to fish, he will stop going back to page 42 and agree with me. Or, he might just keep going back to pg 42 for the free fish and never really learn. Either way my way looks vasty better to me. [/QUOTE]

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