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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 5014603" data-attributes="member: 10177">Delericho largely covers it for me as well. I would just like to add an example. I did not quit running 2E because I quit loving it. I also did not allow the "optional" material, and I ran 2E for over 11 years.I switched to 3E because my players demanded it. Then they demanded all the "options" too. Then as the game level progressed those options weighed down the game. Then each time I ran a game into high levels the weight got heavier and heavier, in part because even more "options" had become available and players wanted them.So eventually the work of prepping for the game killed my love for that edition.Now to be clear, I do not "hate" 3E, that is a label too easily thrown around. I will never run the game again, or Pathfinder either, simply because I have other games I would much rather play because I have much more fun running them.Like I have pointed out before, if people were accurate about labeling me as a "hater" I wouldn't have bought practically every WOTC and third party book put out for 3E, let alone still own them and reference them for games I do run.I simply prefer other games to 3E D&D, and 4E. No hate is involved. Simple preference, only. For some reason some people seem to think that is hate. Thankfully it is not.</blockquote>