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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9318627" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>That's not quite right. There are, in all the Fallout games put together, 5 nuke craters from the war (and 1 from later). We know hugely more bombs than that were dropped, and many nuked locations have no craters. These all seem to be exceptional - 2 are from bombs that got knocked off-target by Mr House, and 2 are from nukes that must have been air burst to cause the destruction they did, but presumably were so large they caused a crater anyway (which can happen with a large enough bomb). The other is less clear. The one from later is from an accidental ground-burst whilst moving an unexploded nuke.</p><p></p><p>All the rest aren't nuke craters. The FO76 crater is from a space station impact. The many smaller craters in FO3 are from artillery and other conventional explosives.</p><p></p><p>There has <em>never</em> been a period when nukes were dropped from aircraft to ground burst except those designed specifically as bunker-busters. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were air bursts. It would make no sense whatsoever to drop air-drop nuclear bombs to the ground unless you intended them as bunker-busters (and if they'd done that, the vaults would likely have been toast)</p><p></p><p>To drop bombs on LA from planes you'd also need to breach US airspace (or be on a clear course to) for multiple hours before you could actually get to LA (given the planes used are clearly not supersonic, let alone hypersonic as seen in various FO games, especially FO:NV). There's no question air raid sirens would be going off long before the planes actually got into position, and interceptors and so on would have been launched. None of which happened. This was a complete surprise attack. [ISPOILER]Which, given we know Vault-tec planned to initiate the war, would make sense.[/ISPOILER] So I think we can be pretty confident about what we were being shown there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9318627, member: 18"] That's not quite right. There are, in all the Fallout games put together, 5 nuke craters from the war (and 1 from later). We know hugely more bombs than that were dropped, and many nuked locations have no craters. These all seem to be exceptional - 2 are from bombs that got knocked off-target by Mr House, and 2 are from nukes that must have been air burst to cause the destruction they did, but presumably were so large they caused a crater anyway (which can happen with a large enough bomb). The other is less clear. The one from later is from an accidental ground-burst whilst moving an unexploded nuke. All the rest aren't nuke craters. The FO76 crater is from a space station impact. The many smaller craters in FO3 are from artillery and other conventional explosives. There has [I]never[/I] been a period when nukes were dropped from aircraft to ground burst except those designed specifically as bunker-busters. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were air bursts. It would make no sense whatsoever to drop air-drop nuclear bombs to the ground unless you intended them as bunker-busters (and if they'd done that, the vaults would likely have been toast) To drop bombs on LA from planes you'd also need to breach US airspace (or be on a clear course to) for multiple hours before you could actually get to LA (given the planes used are clearly not supersonic, let alone hypersonic as seen in various FO games, especially FO:NV). There's no question air raid sirens would be going off long before the planes actually got into position, and interceptors and so on would have been launched. None of which happened. This was a complete surprise attack. [ISPOILER]Which, given we know Vault-tec planned to initiate the war, would make sense.[/ISPOILER] So I think we can be pretty confident about what we were being shown there. [/QUOTE]
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