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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5175362" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Well, "the ghost of Gary Gygax DMing" and "rolling dice in a slightly different location" are similar in that they are both extreme examples. Usually, the question as to whether or not something is "minute" is far more subjective than either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't argue that all words are completely subjective. I argue that valuation is subjective. Earlier in this thread, I even posited that valuation may not be completely subjective.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I call this "Humpty-Dumpty Logic" after the bit in <em>Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There</em>.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.' </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master -- that's all.' </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!' </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">`Would you tell me please,' said Alice, `what that means?' </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">`Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. `I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.' </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Impenetrability! That's what I say!</p><p></p><p>Ah. Obviously the first post in this was mine, while posting under your user name. <em>Mea culpa</em>. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All too true.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5175362, member: 18280"] Well, "the ghost of Gary Gygax DMing" and "rolling dice in a slightly different location" are similar in that they are both extreme examples. Usually, the question as to whether or not something is "minute" is far more subjective than either. I don't argue that all words are completely subjective. I argue that valuation is subjective. Earlier in this thread, I even posited that valuation may not be completely subjective. I call this "Humpty-Dumpty Logic" after the bit in [I]Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There[/I]. [indent]`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.' `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master -- that's all.' Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!' `Would you tell me please,' said Alice, `what that means?' `Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. `I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.' [/indent] Impenetrability! That's what I say! Ah. Obviously the first post in this was mine, while posting under your user name. [I]Mea culpa[/I]. :hmm: All too true. RC [/QUOTE]
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