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<blockquote data-quote="Jhaelen" data-source="post: 5178367" data-attributes="member: 46713"><p>Indeed. To my knowledge, there's not yet been a single sighting of a 'Bigfoot' from a reliable source. What is a 'Bigfoot' supposed to be, anyway? There may be plausible explanations for 'Bigfoot' sightings, but none of them actually require the existance of a 'Bigfoot'.</p><p>The important thing here is that there are exceptions. While it may be true that some or even most cats don't like to swim, there is a sufficiently large number of well-documented counter-examples to convince me it's not a general rule (or rather it's a rule with exceptions <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />).</p><p></p><p>So, what did RC try to illustrate with these examples again?!</p><p></p><p>I agree with RC about this, though:</p><p>This is basically true and the reason for the scientific approach to get objective results:</p><p>A scientific thesis is demonstrable using repeatable experimental or mathematical procedures. You don't have to trust anyone's objectivity if everyone can (theoretically) prove something for themselves. If you repeat the experiment/calculation and you get the same results the thesis is plausible.</p><p></p><p>The objectivity isn't a property of the observers, it's a result of the description of the method to prove it. (Or something like that...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-P" title="Stick out tongue :-P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-P" />)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jhaelen, post: 5178367, member: 46713"] Indeed. To my knowledge, there's not yet been a single sighting of a 'Bigfoot' from a reliable source. What is a 'Bigfoot' supposed to be, anyway? There may be plausible explanations for 'Bigfoot' sightings, but none of them actually require the existance of a 'Bigfoot'. The important thing here is that there are exceptions. While it may be true that some or even most cats don't like to swim, there is a sufficiently large number of well-documented counter-examples to convince me it's not a general rule (or rather it's a rule with exceptions ;)). So, what did RC try to illustrate with these examples again?! I agree with RC about this, though: This is basically true and the reason for the scientific approach to get objective results: A scientific thesis is demonstrable using repeatable experimental or mathematical procedures. You don't have to trust anyone's objectivity if everyone can (theoretically) prove something for themselves. If you repeat the experiment/calculation and you get the same results the thesis is plausible. The objectivity isn't a property of the observers, it's a result of the description of the method to prove it. (Or something like that...:-P) [/QUOTE]
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