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<blockquote data-quote="Parmandur" data-source="post: 7541112" data-attributes="member: 6780330"><p>To be fair, he brought this up in the context of how the Brute was poorly received as "feeling" stronger to folks who read the UA despite the rather robust mathematical model they worked out internally, and how that feeling matters.</p><p></p><p>However, back to the Barbarian being "better" at fighting than the Fighter proper...your anecdote of two Fighters and one Barbarian who never gets his resource limits pushed is nice and all, but that doesn't take away from the Fighters superiority as an always-on combatant. Another aspect: Range. The Fighter is amazing at range, the Barbarian sucks completely at range. The Champion can have the Great Weapon Mastery Feat, the Great Weapon fighting style and the Archery fighting style, being better with a great weapon than the Barbarian while being able to rock a longbow. And that's before the Barbarian is an exhausted hot mess, or considering Action Surges, Manuvers, Spells or expanded critical. Yes, Barbarians are ethe ultimate nova combatants, but Fighters remain strongest there is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Parmandur, post: 7541112, member: 6780330"] To be fair, he brought this up in the context of how the Brute was poorly received as "feeling" stronger to folks who read the UA despite the rather robust mathematical model they worked out internally, and how that feeling matters. However, back to the Barbarian being "better" at fighting than the Fighter proper...your anecdote of two Fighters and one Barbarian who never gets his resource limits pushed is nice and all, but that doesn't take away from the Fighters superiority as an always-on combatant. Another aspect: Range. The Fighter is amazing at range, the Barbarian sucks completely at range. The Champion can have the Great Weapon Mastery Feat, the Great Weapon fighting style and the Archery fighting style, being better with a great weapon than the Barbarian while being able to rock a longbow. And that's before the Barbarian is an exhausted hot mess, or considering Action Surges, Manuvers, Spells or expanded critical. Yes, Barbarians are ethe ultimate nova combatants, but Fighters remain strongest there is. [/QUOTE]
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