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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 2355481" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Then, with respect, J-Z-jazzy-Dyal, this was a thread you should have avoided. It was a thread specifically designed with the stated purpose of having people say whether or not they were going to see the movie in theaters -- and except for folks who've seen special sneak previews or gotten to read the script secretly or something, the trailer is all anyone has to go on. If you think that a mere movie trailer cannot possibly tell the audience enough to know whether they are going to like a particular movie, and thus help them make the decision of whether to see it in theaters, then you might have addressed the thread as a whole, instead of lampooning one person who was doing a fine job of answering the question posed by the thread with the information that most of us have on hand.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I disagree with your assumption. I <strong>can</strong> tell for the most part whether or not I'm going to enjoy a movie based on trailers and commercials -- or, to be more specific, while I have been disappointed by movies with good commercials that turned out to be bad, I have rarely been amazingly surprised by movies with bad commercials that turned out to be good. Not never -- I'm not claiming infallibility by any stretch -- but generally, if a trailer leaves me thinking "Gosh, that's going to suck," and then I see the movie at some later point anyway, it does, in fact, turn out to suck (at least in terms of satisfying me personally).</p><p></p><p>While I can't say for certain, I'd disagree that you can't tell anything from the trailer. You can get some idea of their effects level. You can get an idea of what kind of flavor they're going for in terms of their dialogue. You can see what elements of the movie are so important that they thought that they deserved to be included in the trailer as a taste of things to come (and I know that often, movies have different trailers for different previews -- a "nice comedy trailer" that shows before sensitive, sweet movies and a "raunchy comedy trailer" that shows before R-rated stuff, for some comedy movies, for example; the trailer I saw was before RotS, so if there's another one, I haven't seen it, and would be happy to watch it online to form a better opinion).</p><p></p><p>And based on the trailer I saw, they're banking on special effects without actually having gotten special effects good enough to bank upon. They're also banking on young hot stars, which is not usually a bad idea but runs the risk of annoying die-hard FF fans who wanted a more faithful interpretation. And they're banking on cute self-aware dialogue, which is fine when you have actors who can deliver it, but unless Jessica Alba's scenes were horrifically edited for the trailer (as has happened, I admit), her delivery is bad enough that I foresee comparisons to the Halle Berry toad-hit-by-lightning line in a few places. Jessica Alba is cute. She is not a badass. She does not yet have the acting ability to convey grim determination or steely resolve. Giving her lines that depend upon her being able to convey that stuff is an invitation to unintentional camp.</p><p></p><p>Ergo, not seeing in theaters, and not feeling like I'll be hovering around the DVD rack when it comes out there, either. Unless, of course, word comes in from reviewers whose opinions I respect saying that the trailer was an attempt to lure teens in, and it's actually a well-written movie with lots of genuine emotion and a clear love for its comic-book roots. I don't think anyone's post, no matter how emphatic, can be written without that caveat, since we're all making our assumptions based on having seen the trailer (unless, as noted, someone has a full script or has seen it all in a sneak preview somewhere already).</p><p></p><p>When you cut my post down to the one-liner, please use "!!!!!3-in-binary-notation!!". I'd appreciate it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 2355481, member: 5171"] Then, with respect, J-Z-jazzy-Dyal, this was a thread you should have avoided. It was a thread specifically designed with the stated purpose of having people say whether or not they were going to see the movie in theaters -- and except for folks who've seen special sneak previews or gotten to read the script secretly or something, the trailer is all anyone has to go on. If you think that a mere movie trailer cannot possibly tell the audience enough to know whether they are going to like a particular movie, and thus help them make the decision of whether to see it in theaters, then you might have addressed the thread as a whole, instead of lampooning one person who was doing a fine job of answering the question posed by the thread with the information that most of us have on hand. Personally, I disagree with your assumption. I [b]can[/b] tell for the most part whether or not I'm going to enjoy a movie based on trailers and commercials -- or, to be more specific, while I have been disappointed by movies with good commercials that turned out to be bad, I have rarely been amazingly surprised by movies with bad commercials that turned out to be good. Not never -- I'm not claiming infallibility by any stretch -- but generally, if a trailer leaves me thinking "Gosh, that's going to suck," and then I see the movie at some later point anyway, it does, in fact, turn out to suck (at least in terms of satisfying me personally). While I can't say for certain, I'd disagree that you can't tell anything from the trailer. You can get some idea of their effects level. You can get an idea of what kind of flavor they're going for in terms of their dialogue. You can see what elements of the movie are so important that they thought that they deserved to be included in the trailer as a taste of things to come (and I know that often, movies have different trailers for different previews -- a "nice comedy trailer" that shows before sensitive, sweet movies and a "raunchy comedy trailer" that shows before R-rated stuff, for some comedy movies, for example; the trailer I saw was before RotS, so if there's another one, I haven't seen it, and would be happy to watch it online to form a better opinion). And based on the trailer I saw, they're banking on special effects without actually having gotten special effects good enough to bank upon. They're also banking on young hot stars, which is not usually a bad idea but runs the risk of annoying die-hard FF fans who wanted a more faithful interpretation. And they're banking on cute self-aware dialogue, which is fine when you have actors who can deliver it, but unless Jessica Alba's scenes were horrifically edited for the trailer (as has happened, I admit), her delivery is bad enough that I foresee comparisons to the Halle Berry toad-hit-by-lightning line in a few places. Jessica Alba is cute. She is not a badass. She does not yet have the acting ability to convey grim determination or steely resolve. Giving her lines that depend upon her being able to convey that stuff is an invitation to unintentional camp. Ergo, not seeing in theaters, and not feeling like I'll be hovering around the DVD rack when it comes out there, either. Unless, of course, word comes in from reviewers whose opinions I respect saying that the trailer was an attempt to lure teens in, and it's actually a well-written movie with lots of genuine emotion and a clear love for its comic-book roots. I don't think anyone's post, no matter how emphatic, can be written without that caveat, since we're all making our assumptions based on having seen the trailer (unless, as noted, someone has a full script or has seen it all in a sneak preview somewhere already). When you cut my post down to the one-liner, please use "!!!!!3-in-binary-notation!!". I'd appreciate it. [/QUOTE]
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