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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 3591807" data-attributes="member: 4275"><p>First, I think people are just saying they liked it. And you want to cross-examine them like we're in court and make them JUSTIFY liking it. It's not that people don't have reasons for liking it, it's that they're responding to your initial post which was "hey what did ya'all think", not the extremely aggressive "you must prove my dislike of this movie is WRONG or you didn't really like it" posture you adopted like one post later. </p><p></p><p>But since you missed the reasons for my like of this movie (that I mentioned earlier btw):</p><p></p><p>1. I really felt this movie got a lot of things right. I think Mr. Fantastic, Johnny Storm and the Thing were all *perfectly* cast and the banter within the family was spot on. </p><p></p><p>2. I am a huge Andre Braugher fan and really liked his dripping disdain for Reed Richards.</p><p></p><p>3. The surfer was *awesome*. The look, the voice, the characterization, spot on. </p><p></p><p>4. Doom was doom in this movie. I also liked the way the four never trusted him. Their reactions to doom made him seem menacing. I also *like* the guy from Nip/Tuck they cast to play Doom and think he did a good job in both movies. But I liked him better in this one than the last, because he was Doom, not an evil Enron exec with powers. </p><p></p><p>5. I like Galactus. I don't think a giant white anglo-saxon dude in purple armor with purple lipstick walking through the universe would really work in a movie. So making Galactus mysterious was just fine with me. </p><p></p><p>6. I liked the relationship between the characters. The FF isn't just four individuals, it's a family of four that really love each other, but are borderline disfunctional and fight a lot. All that was on display here.</p><p></p><p>7. I liked the power switching played for comedy, occasionally for tension and then finally as something the group used to their advantage. I also loved seeing all their powers merge. It was almost a shout-out to the SuperSkrull. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I outright said the movie got a ton of things right in my earlier posts on it. That you characterize it as me saying it "didn't screw up too much" says more about your opinion than mine. </p><p></p><p>Which is fine, just don't try and say I said something other than what I said. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did love the FX, and I loved seeing geeky things like the Fantasticar. But, as I listed earlier, those aren't the reasons I think this movie is great. I really thought the casting was just about perfect. I also thought the group dynamic was perfect. </p><p></p><p>And yeah, I recognize that there was a plot hole in the movie. It just didn't bother me. If it doesn't bother me, it's not a big deal. Some of the plot holes in the first movie DID bother me. </p><p></p><p>But overall, I thought this movie was really great, for what I go to see a comic movie for: it captured the essence of the comic it's based on.</p><p></p><p>Given that the comic in question is a freaking CLASSIC, that makes the movie really good. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People are saying why they liked it in most of the posts Im reading, but a few are of course just saying "it was good". </p><p></p><p>Both are fine. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People don't have to justify their ratings. Saying "I liked the movie, it was a 7", does NOT mean you have to "prove" that somehow.</p><p></p><p>You really hated it. I really loved it.</p><p></p><p>Those opinions are completely compatible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 3591807, member: 4275"] First, I think people are just saying they liked it. And you want to cross-examine them like we're in court and make them JUSTIFY liking it. It's not that people don't have reasons for liking it, it's that they're responding to your initial post which was "hey what did ya'all think", not the extremely aggressive "you must prove my dislike of this movie is WRONG or you didn't really like it" posture you adopted like one post later. But since you missed the reasons for my like of this movie (that I mentioned earlier btw): 1. I really felt this movie got a lot of things right. I think Mr. Fantastic, Johnny Storm and the Thing were all *perfectly* cast and the banter within the family was spot on. 2. I am a huge Andre Braugher fan and really liked his dripping disdain for Reed Richards. 3. The surfer was *awesome*. The look, the voice, the characterization, spot on. 4. Doom was doom in this movie. I also liked the way the four never trusted him. Their reactions to doom made him seem menacing. I also *like* the guy from Nip/Tuck they cast to play Doom and think he did a good job in both movies. But I liked him better in this one than the last, because he was Doom, not an evil Enron exec with powers. 5. I like Galactus. I don't think a giant white anglo-saxon dude in purple armor with purple lipstick walking through the universe would really work in a movie. So making Galactus mysterious was just fine with me. 6. I liked the relationship between the characters. The FF isn't just four individuals, it's a family of four that really love each other, but are borderline disfunctional and fight a lot. All that was on display here. 7. I liked the power switching played for comedy, occasionally for tension and then finally as something the group used to their advantage. I also loved seeing all their powers merge. It was almost a shout-out to the SuperSkrull. No, I outright said the movie got a ton of things right in my earlier posts on it. That you characterize it as me saying it "didn't screw up too much" says more about your opinion than mine. Which is fine, just don't try and say I said something other than what I said. I did love the FX, and I loved seeing geeky things like the Fantasticar. But, as I listed earlier, those aren't the reasons I think this movie is great. I really thought the casting was just about perfect. I also thought the group dynamic was perfect. And yeah, I recognize that there was a plot hole in the movie. It just didn't bother me. If it doesn't bother me, it's not a big deal. Some of the plot holes in the first movie DID bother me. But overall, I thought this movie was really great, for what I go to see a comic movie for: it captured the essence of the comic it's based on. Given that the comic in question is a freaking CLASSIC, that makes the movie really good. People are saying why they liked it in most of the posts Im reading, but a few are of course just saying "it was good". Both are fine. People don't have to justify their ratings. Saying "I liked the movie, it was a 7", does NOT mean you have to "prove" that somehow. You really hated it. I really loved it. Those opinions are completely compatible. [/QUOTE]
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