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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 9715528" data-attributes="member: 6778210"><p>I had the exact same feeling, where the beats are okay but they don't hit on the same emotional level as <em>Superman. </em>I think one of the big problems that took me a second to identify is that the Fantastic Four are incredibly isolated in this movie: outside of the F4 and the two main antagonists, there are barely any other major speaking roles, and none of those goes past a handful of dialogue. It leaves the movie feeling very hollow and distant, where the characters are very limited as to who they get to play off of. We get a whole bunch of crowd shots (it feels like 15% of the movie is just shots of crowds of people), but there's rarely any extended direct interaction between the crowd and the heroes. I do wonder if that is because they don't want to waste establishing side characters in a universe that is not going to feature in the MCU going forward...</p><p></p><p>I think the second part is that Franklin and Galactus are two big plots and they don't share time well. Galactus is always a looming presence, a problem that they are constantly trying to solve... which takes away from them getting to be parents and all that entails. But also Galactus honestly can't hold this movie together, either; his presence is felt and is ominous, but by the end I don't think it fully lives up to what it's being built up as.</p><p></p><p>This movie would have been way better spent closer to the early montage, where we see them fighting off minor villains, interacting with people, and going through all the struggles of being new parents. The car seat scene at the end felt the most like a goofy family and I wish the film had more of that vibe. Instead it feels like the movie was meant to quickly establish the F4, draw people in with the promise of Galactus, and get us to Doom as quick as possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Another piece. The ship is seen in the movie, but they definitely didn't send it to the MCU.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 9715528, member: 6778210"] I had the exact same feeling, where the beats are okay but they don't hit on the same emotional level as [I]Superman. [/I]I think one of the big problems that took me a second to identify is that the Fantastic Four are incredibly isolated in this movie: outside of the F4 and the two main antagonists, there are barely any other major speaking roles, and none of those goes past a handful of dialogue. It leaves the movie feeling very hollow and distant, where the characters are very limited as to who they get to play off of. We get a whole bunch of crowd shots (it feels like 15% of the movie is just shots of crowds of people), but there's rarely any extended direct interaction between the crowd and the heroes. I do wonder if that is because they don't want to waste establishing side characters in a universe that is not going to feature in the MCU going forward... I think the second part is that Franklin and Galactus are two big plots and they don't share time well. Galactus is always a looming presence, a problem that they are constantly trying to solve... which takes away from them getting to be parents and all that entails. But also Galactus honestly can't hold this movie together, either; his presence is felt and is ominous, but by the end I don't think it fully lives up to what it's being built up as. This movie would have been way better spent closer to the early montage, where we see them fighting off minor villains, interacting with people, and going through all the struggles of being new parents. The car seat scene at the end felt the most like a goofy family and I wish the film had more of that vibe. Instead it feels like the movie was meant to quickly establish the F4, draw people in with the promise of Galactus, and get us to Doom as quick as possible. Another piece. The ship is seen in the movie, but they definitely didn't send it to the MCU. [/QUOTE]
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