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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 2926095" data-attributes="member: 40177"><p>I personally feel that D&D, in it's current incarnation, does a very poor job of conveying that "Classic Fantasy" feel. Without seriously changing the design of the game or making your own new core classes/races, it is very hard to run a lower-magic game that is similar to Howard's "Conan" series, Tolkien, or even more modern classic fantasy such as Tad Williams.</p><p></p><p>Once you start changing how magic works in your campaign world, or how magical items and wealth are awarded to your group, you mess with the CR rules, and the XP rules. By nature, the D&D rules seem to encourage an "over the top" approach to fantasy - you cannot use the D&D rules to create a classical fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Most of us have seen Lord of the Rings, and I think every D&D'er who watched that movie at one point or another thought "man, that'd be cool to put into my game". I'm sure you watched that movie and were inspired afterwards to play D&D. God knows I was. But, so much of what made that story great would not work in D&D - the rules, quite simply, don't support a game based primarily around martial characters with few magical items. </p><p></p><p>That being said, I don't think D&D SHOULD try to recreate classic fantasy. The older I get, the more I realize that I like just how much high-magic stuff is found within D&D books. I'm already putting together my next campaign world, getting it ready for my triumphant return to D&D play. And this is coming from a guy who has tried to imitate Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn setting on two seperate occasions. </p><p></p><p>I say, just take the system and roll with it. </p><p></p><p>Oh, and Piratecat - I'm stealing your Vampire Ooze. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wik, post: 2926095, member: 40177"] I personally feel that D&D, in it's current incarnation, does a very poor job of conveying that "Classic Fantasy" feel. Without seriously changing the design of the game or making your own new core classes/races, it is very hard to run a lower-magic game that is similar to Howard's "Conan" series, Tolkien, or even more modern classic fantasy such as Tad Williams. Once you start changing how magic works in your campaign world, or how magical items and wealth are awarded to your group, you mess with the CR rules, and the XP rules. By nature, the D&D rules seem to encourage an "over the top" approach to fantasy - you cannot use the D&D rules to create a classical fantasy. Most of us have seen Lord of the Rings, and I think every D&D'er who watched that movie at one point or another thought "man, that'd be cool to put into my game". I'm sure you watched that movie and were inspired afterwards to play D&D. God knows I was. But, so much of what made that story great would not work in D&D - the rules, quite simply, don't support a game based primarily around martial characters with few magical items. That being said, I don't think D&D SHOULD try to recreate classic fantasy. The older I get, the more I realize that I like just how much high-magic stuff is found within D&D books. I'm already putting together my next campaign world, getting it ready for my triumphant return to D&D play. And this is coming from a guy who has tried to imitate Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn setting on two seperate occasions. I say, just take the system and roll with it. Oh, and Piratecat - I'm stealing your Vampire Ooze. ;) [/QUOTE]
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