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<blockquote data-quote="Mokona" data-source="post: 3677449" data-attributes="member: 24891">Thanks for keeping me honest.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; Now that I have Unearthed Arcana in front of me I can give more detail.In the D20 Modern Roleplaying Game characters can purchase two (2) Talents with one Feat: Strong Plus, Fast Plus, Tough Plus, Smart Plus, Dedicated Plus, and Charismatic Plus from D20 Future.&nbsp; This implies that one Talent is worth 1/2 of a Feat but I'm not sure I agree that those Feats are correctly balanced.&nbsp; A strong hero with Melee Smash (+1 damage) can pick up Improved and Advanced Melee Smash for the low low price of one Feat (for a total of +2 damage in addition to Melee Smash).&nbsp; That seems better than Weapon Specialization (a feat that also gives you +2 damage) because Melee Smash doesn't require you to limit its bonus to a single weapon.Suppose elves can pick up a +2 Dexterity (or even Intelligence if you a trying to enable the elf wizard archetype) with the Species Talent Tree.&nbsp; There is no way for a human to replicate this bonus.&nbsp; A human also can't replicate the starting +2 Dexterity that elves receive.&nbsp; Hiitting humans with a second stat increase only available to non-humans is too much for me both on a gut check and by a numerical comparison.Talents that grant +2 to one Ability Score are powerful enough that I'd feel unfairly punished if my human character couldn't get one.&nbsp; The argument that humans can more quickly advance in their chosen character class is nullified on its face because all species Talents are optional.&nbsp; Every species can chose their class Talents (instead of species Talents) in each situation where that is the (only) option open to a human.Have we given humans an extra, use it anywhere, Talent slot that doesn't come from advancing in class levels?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :o"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mokona, post: 3677449, member: 24891"] Thanks for keeping me honest. ;) Now that I have [i]Unearthed Arcana[/i] in front of me I can give more detail. In the [i][b]D20 Modern[/b] Roleplaying Game[/i] characters can purchase two (2) Talents with one Feat: Strong Plus, Fast Plus, Tough Plus, Smart Plus, Dedicated Plus, and Charismatic Plus from [i]D20 Future[/i]. This implies that one Talent is worth 1/2 of a Feat but I'm not sure I agree that those Feats are correctly balanced. A strong hero with Melee Smash (+1 damage) can pick up Improved and Advanced Melee Smash for the low low price of one Feat (for a total of +2 damage in addition to Melee Smash). That seems better than Weapon Specialization (a feat that also gives you +2 damage) because Melee Smash doesn't require you to limit its bonus to a single weapon. Suppose elves can pick up a +2 Dexterity (or even Intelligence if you a trying to enable the elf wizard archetype) with the Species Talent Tree. There is no way for a human to replicate this bonus. A human also can't replicate the starting +2 Dexterity that elves receive. Hiitting humans with a second stat increase only available to non-humans is too much for me both on a gut check and by a numerical comparison. Talents that grant +2 to one Ability Score are powerful enough that I'd feel unfairly punished if my human character couldn't get one. The argument that humans can more quickly advance in their chosen character class is nullified on its face because all species Talents are optional. Every species can chose their class Talents (instead of species Talents) in each situation where that is the (only) option open to a human. Have we given humans an extra, use it anywhere, Talent slot that doesn't come from advancing in class levels? :o [/QUOTE]

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