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<blockquote data-quote="Mokona" data-source="post: 3677472" data-attributes="member: 24891"><p>Elf and human paragons are almost identical. They get the same base attack bonus progression, the same saving throw progression (with different choices for good vs. poor saves), and the same spells per day progression. Human paragons get two (2) more skill points: 4 instead of 2 per level. Decide for yourself but I'd guess that Elfsight and Resist Enchantments are slightly better than treating an additional skill of your choice as a class skill.</p><p></p><p>The 2nd-level paragon elf bonus Feat (Weapon Focus) option is inferior on its face to the human ability to choose any Feat for which he qualifies. Is the human's flexibility 25% better than a fixed bonus Feat? 50% better? Perhaps the human option is worth a fixed Feat (like an elf's Weapon Focus) plus a Talent? This same question of how much better applies to elf and human paragons at third level.</p><p></p><p>The Elf Paragon receives a +2 Intelligence which is never better and sometimes worse (depending on your primary class) than the Human Paragon option to add +2 to any Ability Score.</p><p></p><p>Let me take a stab at The Human Paragon...</p><p></p><p>Humans get a bonus Feat and an additional trained Skill. Perhaps adaptive learning isn't that different. Adaptive Learning: Choose a skill from one of your class skill options. You become trained in that skill. This is the equivalent of a Feat (Skill Training) so perhaps it is too powerful. In that case perhaps humans could pick an Accustomed Skill with their optional species talent tree.</p><p></p><p>2nd Human species Talent would be Spontaneous Talent: Choose a Talent from a Heroic Class other than your current Class. You gain that Talent. You still must meet all requirements for that Talent (other than being a member of that Class). Requirements: Adaptive Learning</p><p></p><p>3rd Human species Talent: Increase one (1) Ability Score of your choice by two (2) points. Requirements: Adaptive Learning, Spontaneous Talent</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mokona, post: 3677472, member: 24891"] Elf and human paragons are almost identical. They get the same base attack bonus progression, the same saving throw progression (with different choices for good vs. poor saves), and the same spells per day progression. Human paragons get two (2) more skill points: 4 instead of 2 per level. Decide for yourself but I'd guess that Elfsight and Resist Enchantments are slightly better than treating an additional skill of your choice as a class skill. The 2nd-level paragon elf bonus Feat (Weapon Focus) option is inferior on its face to the human ability to choose any Feat for which he qualifies. Is the human's flexibility 25% better than a fixed bonus Feat? 50% better? Perhaps the human option is worth a fixed Feat (like an elf's Weapon Focus) plus a Talent? This same question of how much better applies to elf and human paragons at third level. The Elf Paragon receives a +2 Intelligence which is never better and sometimes worse (depending on your primary class) than the Human Paragon option to add +2 to any Ability Score. Let me take a stab at The Human Paragon... Humans get a bonus Feat and an additional trained Skill. Perhaps adaptive learning isn't that different. Adaptive Learning: Choose a skill from one of your class skill options. You become trained in that skill. This is the equivalent of a Feat (Skill Training) so perhaps it is too powerful. In that case perhaps humans could pick an Accustomed Skill with their optional species talent tree. 2nd Human species Talent would be Spontaneous Talent: Choose a Talent from a Heroic Class other than your current Class. You gain that Talent. You still must meet all requirements for that Talent (other than being a member of that Class). Requirements: Adaptive Learning 3rd Human species Talent: Increase one (1) Ability Score of your choice by two (2) points. Requirements: Adaptive Learning, Spontaneous Talent [/QUOTE]
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