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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 364408" data-attributes="member: 2013">That would be a NIMCYD...Not In My Campaign You Don't.Seriously, though...Let's start with this question:What do you get when you mate a half-elf with an elf?  An elf.  Acutal blood is 3/4 elf, 1/4 human.  Obviously, 1/4 is not enough to affect a "base creature."What do you get when you mate a half-elf with a human?  A human.What do you get when you mate a half-elf with a half-orc?A creature that is 1/2 human, 1/4 elf, and 1/4 orc.  As shown above, the 1/4 is negligible, so we get a "human."My next question becomes, "what would you call the offspring of a half-fiend human and a (normal) human?"  I would tend to lean toward, "fiendish human."  Mate a fiendish human with a normal human and get a planetouched human.  Mate a planetouched with a normal human and get a human (takes longer to get fiendish blood "out of your system" than elvish/orcish blood).  Same holds for celestials instead of fiends (I chose fiends because sometimes the template names of half-celestial and celestial(ish) are more confusing than half-fiend and fiendish).IOW, a first-generation planar creature (i.e., a native) is an outsider.  A second-generation is "half-fiend".  A third generation is "fiendish."  A fourth generation is "plane-touched".Since there is no corresponding template for "dragonish", I would suggest that dragonic heritage drops out of the equation at 1/4 (2 generations) also.So, let's look agani at the base creature you suggested... ignoring templates, he comes from a half-elf and half-orc.  That makes him a human.He is 2 generations removed from a celestial, so he receives the celestial(ish) template.  He is 2 generations removed from a dragon, so his heritage drops out of consideration as far as abilities (looks may change).Conclusion:The off-spring of a half-celestial templated half-elf and a half-dragon templated half-orc is...A celestial templated human.--The Sigil</blockquote>

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