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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7667437" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Absolutely. </p><p></p><p>As an analogy, car companies have vans. The van can be sold with 3-4 rows of seats behind the driver/passenger row, for carpooling or large families. They can be sold with two rows back there and a good sized storage space. Or they can be sold with no rows back there and all cargo space. But when the dealership is talking to a delivery company, they don't talk about all those options - they say here is the price for a cargo van, and they market it as a cargo van. It doesn't matter that it can be configured other ways - their audience obviously mostly cares about one way to configure it.</p><p></p><p>This is a D&D audience, and you just launched a big deal flagship D&D-oriented product. Why the heck is it not being marketed to that audience with a single D&D price? Just tell me what it costs for a group (through a DM) to buy the game engine, the core books, and the ability for all their players to load all the classes and create any character and play with that DM, with a good amount of D&D tokens. </p><p></p><p>Don't make me add up the price for the game engine, or a different price for that engine but with unlimited players, and then the price to add the PHB rules, and then the price for the MM rules, and another price for the DMG rules, and then then price for the Basic classes, and the price for all the classes, and the price for a D&D token set, etc.. I am going to add it all up anyway, but by the time I've gotten there myself my enthusiasm is deadened substantially and I start to worry about how you're going to nickle and dime me going forward as new products are released - a thought that was not previously going through my head when I was just excited and wanted to hit a BUY button for the whole thing.</p><p></p><p>I strongly suspect a heck of a lot of gaming groups out there just want one price phrased two ways - up front for lifetime, or monthly, and have it be for the full D&D package. They do not want to buy a hamburger, and then pay separate for the pickles, and separate for the onions, and separate for the lettuce, and separate for the ketchup. Just sell me a friggen hamburger and tell me what it costs, and give me a BUY button to push.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7667437, member: 2525"] Absolutely. As an analogy, car companies have vans. The van can be sold with 3-4 rows of seats behind the driver/passenger row, for carpooling or large families. They can be sold with two rows back there and a good sized storage space. Or they can be sold with no rows back there and all cargo space. But when the dealership is talking to a delivery company, they don't talk about all those options - they say here is the price for a cargo van, and they market it as a cargo van. It doesn't matter that it can be configured other ways - their audience obviously mostly cares about one way to configure it. This is a D&D audience, and you just launched a big deal flagship D&D-oriented product. Why the heck is it not being marketed to that audience with a single D&D price? Just tell me what it costs for a group (through a DM) to buy the game engine, the core books, and the ability for all their players to load all the classes and create any character and play with that DM, with a good amount of D&D tokens. Don't make me add up the price for the game engine, or a different price for that engine but with unlimited players, and then the price to add the PHB rules, and then the price for the MM rules, and another price for the DMG rules, and then then price for the Basic classes, and the price for all the classes, and the price for a D&D token set, etc.. I am going to add it all up anyway, but by the time I've gotten there myself my enthusiasm is deadened substantially and I start to worry about how you're going to nickle and dime me going forward as new products are released - a thought that was not previously going through my head when I was just excited and wanted to hit a BUY button for the whole thing. I strongly suspect a heck of a lot of gaming groups out there just want one price phrased two ways - up front for lifetime, or monthly, and have it be for the full D&D package. They do not want to buy a hamburger, and then pay separate for the pickles, and separate for the onions, and separate for the lettuce, and separate for the ketchup. Just sell me a friggen hamburger and tell me what it costs, and give me a BUY button to push. [/QUOTE]
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