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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7668198" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>I'm assuming you are politely responding to me. Calm down tiger, it's okay!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Didn't quite follow your entire "flow" post, but I still disagree (obviously, I suppose).</p><p></p><p>If a company, lets say Smiteworks, sees a customer desire for a virtual tabletop, and builds one, they most certainly are responding to consumer wants. However, they are choosing WHICH consumer wants match up to their own desires on what to make, and we get Fantasy Grounds. Which is a virtual tabletop, not a character builder.</p><p></p><p>If you aren't in the market for a virtual tabletop, and you want a character builder, then you are being foolish for criticizing Smiteworks for not being a character builder. You may want a character builder, you may be disappointment that nobody's built you one yet, but your complaints are foolish. Note, your desire to have an official D&D character builder is NOT foolish, just complaining that Fantasy Grounds isn't that thing is the foolish part.</p><p></p><p>If you want a fully integrated virtual tabletop AND character builder in one product (I'd love that!), then after learning that still, Fantasy Grounds is not that, you are still foolish for complaining, IMO. You are fully justified in being bummed, disappointed, and frustrated that this product is not for you. You are fine stating that, until you see such a product, your money stays in your wallet. You are fine letting WotC know what you want them to make or license that will meet your needs. But becoming upset and complaining to folks who make software that they didn't build the product YOU want . . . that's the fan sense of entitlement that gets me so irritated in our hobby.</p><p></p><p>I personally would love a 3D virtual tabletop with a fully integrated, rules-validating, character builder. I want a full suite of integrated player and DM tools that will knock my socks off! Fully 3D virtual miniatures on fully 3D tiles/maps . . . it would even be cool if they made neat sounds when you "moved" the miniatures on the battlemap (RAWRRRR!). I want what WotC teased with their plans for 3E and 4E digital tools, but sadly never came to pass. Fantasy Grounds is not that product. Does that make FG a poor product, or give me the right to bitch they aren't meeting all of MY needs? Not IMO. It's a good piece of software that does a LOT of what I want, but not ALL of what I want. But I don't see a competing product that does, so I'm playing around with FG. Happily, without complaint. And making suggestions to Smiteworks, not complaints, whenever I can think of an idea that I would love for them to work on to improve FG.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps that where we don't see eye-to-eye is semantics. Are we stuck on using the positive word "suggestion" vs the negative word "complain"? I dunno, but I am a glass-half-full kinda guy, who is tired of glass-half-empty folks raining on my parade (wow, mixed metaphors, sorry).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7668198, member: 18182"] I'm assuming you are politely responding to me. Calm down tiger, it's okay! Didn't quite follow your entire "flow" post, but I still disagree (obviously, I suppose). If a company, lets say Smiteworks, sees a customer desire for a virtual tabletop, and builds one, they most certainly are responding to consumer wants. However, they are choosing WHICH consumer wants match up to their own desires on what to make, and we get Fantasy Grounds. Which is a virtual tabletop, not a character builder. If you aren't in the market for a virtual tabletop, and you want a character builder, then you are being foolish for criticizing Smiteworks for not being a character builder. You may want a character builder, you may be disappointment that nobody's built you one yet, but your complaints are foolish. Note, your desire to have an official D&D character builder is NOT foolish, just complaining that Fantasy Grounds isn't that thing is the foolish part. If you want a fully integrated virtual tabletop AND character builder in one product (I'd love that!), then after learning that still, Fantasy Grounds is not that, you are still foolish for complaining, IMO. You are fully justified in being bummed, disappointed, and frustrated that this product is not for you. You are fine stating that, until you see such a product, your money stays in your wallet. You are fine letting WotC know what you want them to make or license that will meet your needs. But becoming upset and complaining to folks who make software that they didn't build the product YOU want . . . that's the fan sense of entitlement that gets me so irritated in our hobby. I personally would love a 3D virtual tabletop with a fully integrated, rules-validating, character builder. I want a full suite of integrated player and DM tools that will knock my socks off! Fully 3D virtual miniatures on fully 3D tiles/maps . . . it would even be cool if they made neat sounds when you "moved" the miniatures on the battlemap (RAWRRRR!). I want what WotC teased with their plans for 3E and 4E digital tools, but sadly never came to pass. Fantasy Grounds is not that product. Does that make FG a poor product, or give me the right to bitch they aren't meeting all of MY needs? Not IMO. It's a good piece of software that does a LOT of what I want, but not ALL of what I want. But I don't see a competing product that does, so I'm playing around with FG. Happily, without complaint. And making suggestions to Smiteworks, not complaints, whenever I can think of an idea that I would love for them to work on to improve FG. Perhaps that where we don't see eye-to-eye is semantics. Are we stuck on using the positive word "suggestion" vs the negative word "complain"? I dunno, but I am a glass-half-full kinda guy, who is tired of glass-half-empty folks raining on my parade (wow, mixed metaphors, sorry). [/QUOTE]
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