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Message: <blockquote data-quote="velm" data-source="post: 1866844" data-attributes="member: 25998">Granted, I will admit I only skimmed through portions of some of the posts, but I imagine that thieves or rogues whatever they are called now, could be run like a mafia family.  Some of those mafia families are pretty wealthy, maybe not necessarily in actual wealth at hand but at potential.  Think of all the different areas that they can run; gambling casinos (illegal, of course, where the house gets most of the profits), 'insurance' (pay us, or accidents will happen), the obvious one of theft of items (some mundane and average to the exotic), prostitution rings, people paying dues to their supervisors, loan sharking (I will loan you this 100 gold for 59% rate weekly if it is not paid off), and so on.  If I had my choice to compare a noble family to a guild, the guild would win, because the noble family might be paying the guild for a variety of reasons.  Either to make things run smoother, maybe get things off the docks faster, or past the guards before someone elses, or they might actually be paying them 'insurance' to make sure nothing happens to any of the warehouses.  Plus the guild, can see to it that those they do not like 'sleep with the fishes'.  Sure that noble family will have money, but all it takes is a simple word from the head of the guild to either have the head of the family have an accident with a dagger while he sleeps or a little poison in his mead, or their business goes down the drain and the coffers run out of money.I think it is hard to really say how rogues do business, from the beggers who milk money off people to the rogues who pick the pockets of the commoners at the market to the ones who break into treasuries to get that set of 10,000 gp gems.It would be hard to put a value on them, plus they can have the possibility to advance pretty quick with all the 'trouble' they can get into.  Think about the CR of traps that can be laid out and overcome, and other things.</blockquote>

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