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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 3573704" data-attributes="member: 21169">And particularly noticeable in Eberron where PCs have action points.It's postmodern, like the characters in a novel discovering that's what they are. That their lives are governed by the rules of plot and drama rather than the rules of the real world. In the rpg Over The Edge, Jonathan Tweet suggests a plot in which the PCs discover that they are characters in a roleplaying game. I don't think it would work very well.You and fusangite seem to have slightly different views. You both agree that there should be a tight connection between rules and game universe. But it seems you believe universe should take precedence. Ie that where it is discovered that the rules don't accurately represent the universe, the rules should be changed. Whereas fusangite seems to hold that the rules have precedence and that as the depths of the rules are plumbed, the universe can actually change as a result. Is this correct?If so it seems the rules-as-physics analogy holds more true for you than fusangite as in our world physics (in the sense of the human endeavour) doesn't control the real universe, it's the other way round.</blockquote>