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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 4980851" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>May I ask if you've ever had western martial arts training? (And I don't mean this sarcastically.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But their usage IS the question. You don't use a hammer to put in a screw or a screwdriver to hammer a nail. Likewise, you don't use a butcher knife to spread butter. You don't use a paring knife to dress a side of beef. You use a tool for what it was meant to do.</p><p></p><p>Greatswords simply are <u>NOT</u> meant to counter Armor. Period. It is not what they are made for, it is not how they were used, and its not how a sword was meant to be used and just because it weighs more and is longer <u>doesn't</u> make it more effective against said armor. Actually, smaller and sharper blades are MUCH more effective against armor. Why?</p><p></p><p>Due to common misunderstandings not only of the sword but, of plate armor, people keep making the argument that a heavy sword was needed to smash or cut through armor. Wrong.</p><p></p><p>Armorers, soldiers, and swordmasters alike realized that trying to cut through plate with a sword was sheer stupidity. More often than not, significant damage would be done to any sword when trying to "hack" through plate armor. Getting in between the joints with a weapon designed for thrusting as well as cut however, was easier and more effective than trying to cut through solid steel plating. There were much better tools such as axe, daggers and other short bladed swords (including longswords that could wielded single handed) which could deliver greater cutting ability and shock absorption without sustaining a great deal of weapon damage (that would also have been very expensive to repair) than the greatsword. </p><p></p><p>Now if you wanted to "cleave" plate... the chosen weapons were crossbows or heavy Blunt weapons such as hammers, maces, morningstars, etc. You don't cut through the armor so much as dent it to the point of being ineffective such as jamming joints, opening more gaps in the armor, caving in helms, etc.</p><p></p><p>This is why it makes perfect sense that the greatsword is 'statted' to be less effective against armor than smaller blades.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 4980851, member: 2167"] May I ask if you've ever had western martial arts training? (And I don't mean this sarcastically.) But their usage IS the question. You don't use a hammer to put in a screw or a screwdriver to hammer a nail. Likewise, you don't use a butcher knife to spread butter. You don't use a paring knife to dress a side of beef. You use a tool for what it was meant to do. Greatswords simply are [u]NOT[/u] meant to counter Armor. Period. It is not what they are made for, it is not how they were used, and its not how a sword was meant to be used and just because it weighs more and is longer [u]doesn't[/u] make it more effective against said armor. Actually, smaller and sharper blades are MUCH more effective against armor. Why? Due to common misunderstandings not only of the sword but, of plate armor, people keep making the argument that a heavy sword was needed to smash or cut through armor. Wrong. Armorers, soldiers, and swordmasters alike realized that trying to cut through plate with a sword was sheer stupidity. More often than not, significant damage would be done to any sword when trying to "hack" through plate armor. Getting in between the joints with a weapon designed for thrusting as well as cut however, was easier and more effective than trying to cut through solid steel plating. There were much better tools such as axe, daggers and other short bladed swords (including longswords that could wielded single handed) which could deliver greater cutting ability and shock absorption without sustaining a great deal of weapon damage (that would also have been very expensive to repair) than the greatsword. Now if you wanted to "cleave" plate... the chosen weapons were crossbows or heavy Blunt weapons such as hammers, maces, morningstars, etc. You don't cut through the armor so much as dent it to the point of being ineffective such as jamming joints, opening more gaps in the armor, caving in helms, etc. This is why it makes perfect sense that the greatsword is 'statted' to be less effective against armor than smaller blades. [/QUOTE]
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