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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2904379" data-attributes="member: 31734">Is a gauntlet a &quot;weapon in hand&quot;?&nbsp; If so, you are not making an unarmed attack with it. The same thing with an unarmed strike.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So, then we could say a gauntlet is not a weapon (and thus no proficiency is required).&nbsp; It merely transforms your unarmed strike damage into lethal damage.The difference between the two terms above is that an unarmed strike is a specific type of unarmed attack.&nbsp; Other types would be a grapple, trip, disarm, etc.&nbsp; Everywhere you see &quot;unarmed attack&quot; you can substitute any type of unarmed attack unless explicitly told otherwise.&nbsp; However, you cannot take unarmed strike and substitute any other unarmed attack because an unarmed attack is a much more general case.&nbsp; Not that an unarmed attack need not actually deal damage, such as with a trip.&nbsp; This makes the equivalence of gauntlet to unarmed attack incongruous.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2904379, member: 31734"] Is a gauntlet a "weapon in hand"? If so, you are not making an unarmed attack with it. The same thing with an unarmed strike. :) So, then we could say a gauntlet is not a weapon (and thus no proficiency is required). It merely transforms your unarmed strike damage into lethal damage. The difference between the two terms above is that an unarmed strike is a specific type of unarmed attack. Other types would be a grapple, trip, disarm, etc. Everywhere you see "unarmed attack" you can substitute any type of unarmed attack unless explicitly told otherwise. However, you cannot take unarmed strike and substitute any other unarmed attack because an unarmed attack is a much more general case. Not that an unarmed attack need not actually deal damage, such as with a trip. This makes the equivalence of gauntlet to unarmed attack incongruous. [/QUOTE]

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