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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1828770" data-attributes="member: 1656">The buckler/somatic component question is addressed in <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105483" target="_blank">another thread</a>.I notice the flubbed Weapon Finesse question from last update has been corrected <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But these two puzzle me:The vigor series of spells (found in Complete Divine)raise an interesting question. Does the built-in maximumduration of each spell limitation override the effect of theExtend Spell feat?Yes. Extend Spell still increases the spell’s duration, butonly up to a maximum of the spell’s listed maximum duration.Use either the normal maximum duration or the doubledduration, whichever is less. If a 7th-level druid used ExtendSpell on her vigor spell, the duration could not increase beyond25 rounds.andThe mass lesser vigor spell has a fixed range (of 20 feet),which makes it eligible for the revised Persistent Spell featin Player's Guide to Faerûn. Does that mean a 17th-leveldruid could use a 9th-level spell slot to give nine creaturesfast healing 1 for 24 hours, or does the built-in limit of 25rounds make that pointless?Unlike Extend Spell, Persistent Spell replaces a spell’s normalduration with a new duration of 24 hours. In this case, theeffect overrides the normal maximum duration of the spell, so itwould indeed grant nine creatures fast healing 1 for 24 hours (apretty reasonable effect for a 9th-level spell).I could understand either of those answers... but not both.Either the duration line of the spell includes the parenthetical maximum - in which case it is doubled by Extend Spell and overwritten by Persistent Spell - or it does not - in which case Extend Spell doubled the duration (limited to 25 rounds), and Persistent Spell makes it 24 hours (limited to 25 rounds).I can't see how it can be argued the Extend sees the limit, but Persistent doesn't...Thoughts?-Hyp.</blockquote>

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