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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1399717" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>I'd reword that - "wield it one-handed with two hands" doesn't make sense. "Wield it (as a one-handed weapon) with two hands" by preference, or "Wield it (as a one-handed weapon) two-handed", meaning the same thing, though that one bears the unfortunate similarity to the defined term "two-handed weapon" and can (and does) lead to confusion.</p><p></p><p>But yes, that's what I'm saying. It's a one-handed weapon; it's too large to wield with one hand unless you have the EWP. If you have no proficiency, you can wield it as you'd wield any other one-handed weapon you weren't proficient in - a -4 penalty - with the caveat that wielding it in one hand is forbidden.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yup, but it doesn't say "two-handed weapon".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's right.</p><p></p><p>Let's take a human with a longsword as our control example in an opposed Disarm check.</p><p></p><p>Opponent A1: Human with Medium longsword. One-handed weapon: no bonus; no size difference: no bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +0.</p><p>Opponent A2: Ogre with Medium longsword. Light weapon: -4 penalty. One size larger than opponent: +4 bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +0.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter who's holding the longsword: against our control opponent, the relative bonus is the same.</p><p></p><p>Opponent A1: Human with Medium greatsword. Two-handed weapon: +4 bonus; no size difference: no bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +4.</p><p>Opponent A2: Ogre with Medium greatsword. One-handed weapon: no penalty. One size larger than opponent: +4 bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +4.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter who's holding the greatsword: against our control opponent, the relative bonus is the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, no - firstly because it's considered a <em>Large</em> one-handed weapon, which has twice as many hitpoints as a Medium one-handed weapon.</p><p></p><p>But it's only being treated as a Large one-handed weapon; it's definitely still a Medium two-handed weapon, because the ogre is taking a -2 penalty for inappropriate size. If it were actually a Large weapon, he wouldn't be taking that penalty.</p><p></p><p>So yes, under the Rules as Written, there <em>is</em> a static component. It's always a Medium two-handed weapon, even if it's being used as an inappropriately-sized Large one-handed weapon or an inappropriately-sized Huge light weapon.</p><p></p><p>Under the FAQ ruling, "one-handed weapon" and "two-handed weapon" only exist on the tables "as a matter of convenience" (!?) (and apparently sometimes don't apply even then, like the bastard sword or waraxe), because they really mean "how many hands you're using to hold the weapon".</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1399717, member: 1656"] I'd reword that - "wield it one-handed with two hands" doesn't make sense. "Wield it (as a one-handed weapon) with two hands" by preference, or "Wield it (as a one-handed weapon) two-handed", meaning the same thing, though that one bears the unfortunate similarity to the defined term "two-handed weapon" and can (and does) lead to confusion. But yes, that's what I'm saying. It's a one-handed weapon; it's too large to wield with one hand unless you have the EWP. If you have no proficiency, you can wield it as you'd wield any other one-handed weapon you weren't proficient in - a -4 penalty - with the caveat that wielding it in one hand is forbidden. Yup, but it doesn't say "two-handed weapon". That's right. Let's take a human with a longsword as our control example in an opposed Disarm check. Opponent A1: Human with Medium longsword. One-handed weapon: no bonus; no size difference: no bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +0. Opponent A2: Ogre with Medium longsword. Light weapon: -4 penalty. One size larger than opponent: +4 bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +0. It doesn't matter who's holding the longsword: against our control opponent, the relative bonus is the same. Opponent A1: Human with Medium greatsword. Two-handed weapon: +4 bonus; no size difference: no bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +4. Opponent A2: Ogre with Medium greatsword. One-handed weapon: no penalty. One size larger than opponent: +4 bonus. Relative bonus in opposed check: +4. It doesn't matter who's holding the greatsword: against our control opponent, the relative bonus is the same. Well, no - firstly because it's considered a [i]Large[/i] one-handed weapon, which has twice as many hitpoints as a Medium one-handed weapon. But it's only being treated as a Large one-handed weapon; it's definitely still a Medium two-handed weapon, because the ogre is taking a -2 penalty for inappropriate size. If it were actually a Large weapon, he wouldn't be taking that penalty. So yes, under the Rules as Written, there [i]is[/i] a static component. It's always a Medium two-handed weapon, even if it's being used as an inappropriately-sized Large one-handed weapon or an inappropriately-sized Huge light weapon. Under the FAQ ruling, "one-handed weapon" and "two-handed weapon" only exist on the tables "as a matter of convenience" (!?) (and apparently sometimes don't apply even then, like the bastard sword or waraxe), because they really mean "how many hands you're using to hold the weapon". -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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