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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 562566" data-attributes="member: 2013">Having seen the movie twice now, and paying particular attention to Faramir this time around...I'm still not satisfied.  Faramir's character in the movie just suddenly seems to decide, out of nowhere, that taking the ring to Gondor is bad and letting the hobbits... esp. Frodo, whom he has just seen lose a struggle to control the ring... take the ring to Mordor is good.I understand what everyone here is saying in that the change needed to be made, but for me, there was no convincing process through which Faramir decided the ring was bad.  It was almost deux ex machina ("well, the NPC could kick the snot out of you and drag you to Gondor, and he wants to kick the snot out of you and drag you to Gondor, but because that would ruin my story arc with the other PCs, he suddenly, inexplicably becomes disinterested and lets you go").I watched very closely for any indication that Faramir was even CONSIDERING changing his mind.  And I found none.And I think they could have shown Faramir's struggle very easily.  When he sees the ring on Frodo's neck, rather than obviously being tempted to take it, only to be "told off" by Sam and then "hurried out" by his lieutenant, they need only to show him reminescing/pondering a bit.  Something to the effect of..."So this is Isildur's Bane.  The answer to the riddle.  The dream my brother had... was of the one ring.  (fade to Boromir and Faramir talking, with Faramir's voice continuing to voice over) In my heart I knew this from the time he told me of his dream.  (fade to Faramir sitting alone, smoking a pipe, with thoughtful look on his face) And in my heart I pondered... if Isildur's Bane had been found, why not use it to destroy our enemy?  (hold a few seconds on Faramir pondering, then make a slow fade a shot of a ringwraith in place of Faramir - as though he is recognizing the fate of the ringbearers, then fade the ringwraith back into pondering Faramir, whose eyes go steely, firm with resolve.  Then return shot to Faramir in the cave speaking to Frodo and Sam).  At length I realized that the ring has only the power to destroy... and that if the noble Isildur could not control it, how could I, or Boromir, or anyone else not of the line of kings even stand a chance of controlling it.  You need not fear, little ones.  Now is the time for Faramir to show his quality.  My decision was made in private long ago, when I was myself and had my thought unclouded by the proximate lure of the ring. (He drops his sword from Frodo's neck) I will not touch the ring, nor will I take it to Gondor... to do so would tempt me beyond my power to resist.  (Turns away, camera stays with his face - he's obviously struggling to get this out)  Go now to Mordor, and go quickly, 'ere the ring takes hold of my mind also and causes my resolve to falter."*The lieutenant sees Faramir ushering the hobbits toward the edge of the camp*L: "If you let them go, your life will be forfeit!"F: "Then it is forfeit."How hard was that?  Takes as much time to do the exposition as it did for Gandalf to do his little exposition on Sauron's torture of Gollum.  The ring is still tempting and spooky.  And Faramir is shown to be as thoughtful and wise as he was in the books.--The Sigil</blockquote>

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