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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 4440430" data-attributes="member: 5834">Mostly to get it out of my system. That's why I stated it didn't seem worthwhile to argue it. It was a very personal view of the system that I know wasn't going to be acknowledged as valid by those who like 4E, and I knew wasn't going to change for me were it argued. Those complaints are things I personally don't like because the mechanics take me out of the game.Same as the complication of 3E mechanics took alot of people out of the game or turned them off to 3E. You can't make someone like something they just don't like.I felt like it would be unfair to say "I hate 4E" and give no reason. I wanted to make sure those who questioned why I didn't like 4E had very specific reasons why I did not like the game. Last time I posted my dislike of 4E, I had not played the game and did not feel qualified to question it.Now I have played 4E. I do not like it and I know exactly why I do not like it and can support my reasons better than when I was just a player reading about 4E. Some of my earlier criticisms were correct and some were not, but other critcisms I did not even know would bother me raised their head like minions and encounter powers. So I wanted to ensure that those who had told me to give 4E a try and thought it was great know that this time when I say "I do not like it, the reasons are manifold and come from experience both as a DM and player. I played two times a week including one very long weekend session since 4E hit the shelves. I ran one campaign to see if I liked DMing and played in the other. Both times I burned out on the game and grew weary of it for many of the reasons I stated and a few more beyond. I would have found a post stating "I hate 4E" without cause easier to attack as I have often seen done. But a post that is clear and concise as to the reasons and coming from a position of experience with the system easier to accept as it is an opinion of the mechanics rather than an attempt to paint 4E as bad for everyone. I understand different strokes for different folks. So I would have preferred just commiserate with those that find the game as dissatisfying as I do versus arguing with those that like 4E who won't see my complaints about it as valid.</blockquote>

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