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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bamphalas" data-source="post: 433861" data-attributes="member: 6455">Defense is fubar'dHe must have.  I emailed him a few days ago because the defense bonuses were ridiculously high, and asked him to clarify.10/15/02:Note: As stated in my previous post, we decided to give up on using class defense bonuses.  They just don't make sense.I think the breaking point on Defense bonuses was the fact that they start too high.  Maybe what should be done is reduce them down to +1 and advance them normally, but gain the excess defense bonus only at 1st level.  Similar to the way other bonuses (hit points, feats, etc. work)  That way, they can still stack, but you don't get a massive defense boost for adding a class.  Just a thought.</blockquote>