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<blockquote data-quote="JEB" data-source="post: 8746266" data-attributes="member: 10148"><p>Out of curiosity, I tried directly applying the SCAG variant tiefling traits to the One D&D tiefling.</p><p></p><p><strong>Appearance:</strong> No problem here.</p><p></p><p><strong>Feral:</strong> Technically One D&D tieflings don't have a trait called "Ability Score Increase". But as long as you choose/create a One D&D background with +2 Dex and +1 Int, you get the same benefits.</p><p></p><p><strong>Devil's Tongue:</strong> Replaces the 5E Infernal Legacy trait. A really strict DM could argue that the One D&D tiefling only has an Infernal subtype of the "Fiendish Legacy" trait, and say that they're technically not the same trait and you can't substitute. (And they wouldn't be 100% wrong that the traits are different, but I'll get to that later.) However, I think it's pretty damned reasonable to say that "Infernal Legacy" = "Fiendish Legacy, Infernal". The intent is plain (RAI) and to argue otherwise would be quibbling.</p><p></p><p>Of note, however, is that the One D&D Chthonic and Abyssal legacies are definitely not the same as the 5E Infernal Legacy. So a DM could argue that One D&D tieflings of those subtypes can't pick up Devil's Tongue. (And I think I'd agree - it is <em>Devil's</em> Tongue.)</p><p></p><p><strong>Hellfire:</strong> Replaces the Hellish Rebuke spell within the 5E Infernal Legacy trait. Going by the above argument, this is fine (but again, only for Infernal tieflings - and again, thematically that makes perfect sense).</p><p></p><p><strong>Winged:</strong> Replaces the 5E Infernal Legacy trait. Once again, under all but the strictest interpretation this should be fine for One D&D Infernal tieflings. But you'd have to argue against both RAW and RAI to apply this to Abyssal or Chthonic tieflings.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, as I hinted earlier, there is a key difference between 5E and One D&D tieflings related to Fiendish Legacy. 5E tieflings have fire resistance as a standalone trait, Hellish Resistance. But One D&D Infernal tieflings incorporate that into Fiendish Legacy (and the other two lineages have different resistances in its place). So RAW or RAI, One D&D Infernal tieflings lose their fire resistance if they choose the Devil's Tongue or Winged options.</p><p></p><p>Of course, you can also just use a 2014 tiefling with the SCAG rules in a One D&D game, and it should work fine. The only SCAG variant that misses out from this option is Hellfire, since you won't get the One D&D Infernal tiefling's extra Fire Bolt cantrip.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JEB, post: 8746266, member: 10148"] Out of curiosity, I tried directly applying the SCAG variant tiefling traits to the One D&D tiefling. [B]Appearance:[/B] No problem here. [B]Feral:[/B] Technically One D&D tieflings don't have a trait called "Ability Score Increase". But as long as you choose/create a One D&D background with +2 Dex and +1 Int, you get the same benefits. [B]Devil's Tongue:[/B] Replaces the 5E Infernal Legacy trait. A really strict DM could argue that the One D&D tiefling only has an Infernal subtype of the "Fiendish Legacy" trait, and say that they're technically not the same trait and you can't substitute. (And they wouldn't be 100% wrong that the traits are different, but I'll get to that later.) However, I think it's pretty damned reasonable to say that "Infernal Legacy" = "Fiendish Legacy, Infernal". The intent is plain (RAI) and to argue otherwise would be quibbling. Of note, however, is that the One D&D Chthonic and Abyssal legacies are definitely not the same as the 5E Infernal Legacy. So a DM could argue that One D&D tieflings of those subtypes can't pick up Devil's Tongue. (And I think I'd agree - it is [I]Devil's[/I] Tongue.) [B]Hellfire:[/B] Replaces the Hellish Rebuke spell within the 5E Infernal Legacy trait. Going by the above argument, this is fine (but again, only for Infernal tieflings - and again, thematically that makes perfect sense). [B]Winged:[/B] Replaces the 5E Infernal Legacy trait. Once again, under all but the strictest interpretation this should be fine for One D&D Infernal tieflings. But you'd have to argue against both RAW and RAI to apply this to Abyssal or Chthonic tieflings. Also, as I hinted earlier, there is a key difference between 5E and One D&D tieflings related to Fiendish Legacy. 5E tieflings have fire resistance as a standalone trait, Hellish Resistance. But One D&D Infernal tieflings incorporate that into Fiendish Legacy (and the other two lineages have different resistances in its place). So RAW or RAI, One D&D Infernal tieflings lose their fire resistance if they choose the Devil's Tongue or Winged options. Of course, you can also just use a 2014 tiefling with the SCAG rules in a One D&D game, and it should work fine. The only SCAG variant that misses out from this option is Hellfire, since you won't get the One D&D Infernal tiefling's extra Fire Bolt cantrip. [/QUOTE]
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