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Message: <blockquote data-quote="weem" data-source="post: 5096054" data-attributes="member: 9470">We don't have unspoken rules. Like I have said, my thread starts with assuming that people are familiar with Aspects from Fate... that means the rules about how they work. My players looked over them when we started (I made sure everyone was into it before implementing it) and I think the section about narrative control is great and works well.Maybe that is the problem. Maybe instead of "declaration" the card should say (as it does in the rules) Take minor "narrative control".Just so we know what I am referring to, here are the appropriate sections from Fate...//////////Fate Points<snip>some other uses, including bonuses etc</snip>They may also spend a Fate point for minor narrative control of a situation.Common uses for this include finding a convenient item, knowing someonein a particular town, or showing up at just the right moment in anotherscene. Effectively, this expenditure allows the player to take the role of GMfor a moment. The GM has full veto rights on any such expenditures, inwhich case the point is not spent.More often than not, this sort of expenditure of Fate points is an attempt bythe players to keep things moving. Its more fun to just assume you have thetool you need in your trunk than to have to drive back from the hauntedhouse, hit a hardware store, and then drive back. As a GM, if theexpenditure lets people continue to have fun without breaking anything, itshould generally be allowed.Its also important to consider how reasonable the players request is. If itsreally no stretch at all, spending a Fate point shouldnt even be necessary.Fate points are really for use in that narrow spectrum between completelylogical and GM ruling.And on the next page...How Much Power Should Players Have?Granting the players any degree of narrative control mayseem like an odd idea to GMs who have not encounteredthe idea before. As such, exactly how far it goes is almostentirely based on the GMs comfort level. GMs arewelcome to ignore this option entirely, but we stronglyencourage GMs to at least give it a try. Even somethingso simple as allowing players to spend a Fate point tohave the right item in their backpack can be verysatisfying for everyone involved. As far as wereconcerned, theres no limit on how far this power canextend. It’s possible to give player broad narrative powerwith this mechanic, allowing them to use Fate points tocreate plots and NPCs and generally complicate stories.If that sounds like fun, give it a try - the only reallimitation should be that its done so everyone has morefun. If the players are spending Fate points and things arebecoming less fun as a result, its time to tone thingsdown a notch.//////////That covers it well enough, at least for us. Everyone got the idea and were excited. Now, is that enough for the masses for its addition to D&D? Maybe not. It works for Fate apparently, but as you mentioned that is a different game.I don't know, you tell me - does changing the term from "Make a declaration" to "Take minor narrative control" make it easier to manage? What about after reading those rules (maybe you have read them before, I'm not sure)?</blockquote>

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