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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5980714" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>Hmm, Blame Units....excellent idea....</p><p></p><p>In the stereotypical situation, the bad guy tries to play on the hero's feelings of guilt if he fails to suceeed. Thoughts like "if only I had been faster, I would have saved her" strike me as a variant of survivor's guilt. However, in my view, the Hero who is trying to do the right thing is never at fault if he fails. Kind of a Good Samaritan protection clause.</p><p></p><p>As such, a bad guy trying to pre-emptively cast that guilt on the hero before the bad thing has happened falls under the same protection clause. Hero can't be blamed for what the Villain set in motion, even if he fails to stop him. Note, that by fail, I mean attempted to stop him but did not succeed, rather than did not take any meaningful action in the pursuit of saving the day.</p><p></p><p>Is there an example situation (that I'm not thinking of) where the Hero has some culpability/blame/responsibility DESPITE trying to do the right thing?</p><p></p><p>For ex, Peter Parker getting his Uncle killed is partly Peter's fault BECAUSE he didn't do the right thing. It wasn't even that he accidentally did something that setup the tragedy, Peter had the very obvious opportunity to do the right thing and he chose to ignore it*. Thus, his story is NOT an instance of what I'm looking for as an example situation.</p><p>* the original movie and comic make it where Peter witnesses a robbery and physically let the obvious bad guy go who later kills his uncle. It is a little more watered down and contrived in the new movie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5980714, member: 8835"] Hmm, Blame Units....excellent idea.... In the stereotypical situation, the bad guy tries to play on the hero's feelings of guilt if he fails to suceeed. Thoughts like "if only I had been faster, I would have saved her" strike me as a variant of survivor's guilt. However, in my view, the Hero who is trying to do the right thing is never at fault if he fails. Kind of a Good Samaritan protection clause. As such, a bad guy trying to pre-emptively cast that guilt on the hero before the bad thing has happened falls under the same protection clause. Hero can't be blamed for what the Villain set in motion, even if he fails to stop him. Note, that by fail, I mean attempted to stop him but did not succeed, rather than did not take any meaningful action in the pursuit of saving the day. Is there an example situation (that I'm not thinking of) where the Hero has some culpability/blame/responsibility DESPITE trying to do the right thing? For ex, Peter Parker getting his Uncle killed is partly Peter's fault BECAUSE he didn't do the right thing. It wasn't even that he accidentally did something that setup the tragedy, Peter had the very obvious opportunity to do the right thing and he chose to ignore it*. Thus, his story is NOT an instance of what I'm looking for as an example situation. * the original movie and comic make it where Peter witnesses a robbery and physically let the obvious bad guy go who later kills his uncle. It is a little more watered down and contrived in the new movie. [/QUOTE]
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