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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hackenslash" data-source="post: 1089076" data-attributes="member: 11770">100% in agreement.....I do agree with this posted statement and have encountered this a lot in my current group, though I do not find it offencive, it can get a little irksome and frustrating. We have a player, whose sole purpose for changing his "Master of Chains" character was because we fought too many large creatures who were too difficult to trip, also he did not like the way his character could not intimidate someone with his high intimidate score, so he dropped the character and decided to play a Half Celestial Druid with an Awakened Celestial Dire Lion as a Companion, only to give that up after it was feeble minded and not wait for a cure. He then played a Minotaur Frenzied Beserker, which was a very effective melee combatant but was too unpredictable for the party and caused Havoc when he ran out of enemies to kill. That character was killed in combat so now he is playing a Ranger/Shadow Dancer, who decided to opt for a more melee approach to combat, only to sulk when we came up against 2 Blue Dragons, who quite naturally decided to hit us from the air with hit and run Breath Weapon attacks and snatch attacks. This particular person was quite miserable for the next 2 weeks as the encounter lasted a while and did make disparageing comments about feeling left out because he could not fly and could not shoot a bow properly (meaning he did not get the best bonuses to do so) and wanted the DM to "land" the Dragons so that he could get to grips with them properly. In the end he discovered that his Celestial armor did allow him to fly and he could also use his Shadow Jump ability to get on top of one of the Dragons, but then complained when the Dragon was taken out by a Polar Ray spell from the wizard. He claimed that the DM had designed the encounter without his character in mind and that he was effectively useless.Now, bearing in mind the player had ample opportunity to create any character he wanted with no restrictions at all as it was effectively a 15th level character and had a lot of treasure to buy. Any number of magic items could have helped, plus he actually had an item that let him fly but did not read up on it so did not know it did allow flying ability. At the end of the day this illustrates the point perfectly, that players can and often do "Blame" their DM's when the situation does not suit their characters abilities or becomes too challenging and they have to think too much. I am far from a perfect player but I do try to cut my DM some slack and not winge too much when things don't go my way or I find my character in a situation where I can not get the most benefit form my abilites. Face it guys and gals you are not always gonna have the best case scenario and your abilites may not always seem to fit the scenario, but isn't that what DnD is supposed to be about. Overcomeing seemingly difficult or immpossible scenarios with the abilites you do have, even if you have to use them in different and unusual ways. This was not a rant but it did touch a nerve after some very recent gaming sessions with our group and I think that our players should read this thread and digest and assimulate and maybe we can have better adventures without witch hunting the DM. Just my 2 cents...Cheers All  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />[Edit] with spaces to make it easier to read.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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