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<blockquote data-quote="Belbarrus" data-source="post: 1140088" data-attributes="member: 10962">There is something about the Ranger's Favored Enemy that has me somewhat bewildered. Ranger's gain a bonus on certain skills and damage versus favored creature types. For example, a 1st level Ranger may select Evil Outsiders and gain a +2 on certain skills and damage versus Evil Outsiders.Here is the dilemna. Let's say the Ranger is fighting a human. But the human is secretly an Evil Outsider (one of the Ranger's favored enemies) with a disguise or Disguise self spell. Does the Ranger get his FE bonus when he doesnt realize that he is fighting an FE? Does the Rangar have to &quot;know&quot; that the target is truly a favored enemy? Can a disguise be used to prevent the Ranger's FE bonus?What if the Ranger is fighting a human and has &quot;Human&quot; as a FE, but the target is really a different creature in disguise? Does the Ranger get his FE bonus because he &quot;thinks&quot; that he is fighting a FE?If the DM decides to give/not give the Ranger his FE bonus depending on the circumstance, this could be a &quot;free&quot; way to detect disguises.Imagine the party is fighting a powerful Human and the Ranger player states, &quot;A-ha! I get +4 on damage because Humans are one of my favored enemies.&quot; The DM, knowing that the Human is actually a Rakshasa under disguise tells the player, &quot;You dont get your FE bonus.&quot; Unless there is some other reason that prevents a Rangers FE bonus, the players would be suspicious at least, and be able to work out that their target is not truly Human.Or, the other way around. The party is fighting an Orc. The Ranger does not have Orcs as Favored Enemy, but he does have &quot;Fey&quot;. When the Ranger hits the Orc (which is a Pixie in disguise), the DM tells the player, &quot;You can add your FE bonus for Fey creatures.&quot; Ba-ding!! The players are alerted that something is amiss.Any thoughts on this?B</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belbarrus, post: 1140088, member: 10962"] There is something about the Ranger's Favored Enemy that has me somewhat bewildered. Ranger's gain a bonus on certain skills and damage versus favored creature types. For example, a 1st level Ranger may select Evil Outsiders and gain a +2 on certain skills and damage versus Evil Outsiders. Here is the dilemna. Let's say the Ranger is fighting a human. But the human is secretly an Evil Outsider (one of the Ranger's favored enemies) with a disguise or Disguise self spell. Does the Ranger get his FE bonus when he doesnt realize that he is fighting an FE? Does the Rangar have to "know" that the target is truly a favored enemy? Can a disguise be used to prevent the Ranger's FE bonus? What if the Ranger is fighting a human and has "Human" as a FE, but the target is really a different creature in disguise? Does the Ranger get his FE bonus because he "thinks" that he is fighting a FE? If the DM decides to give/not give the Ranger his FE bonus depending on the circumstance, this could be a "free" way to detect disguises. Imagine the party is fighting a powerful Human and the Ranger player states, "A-ha! I get +4 on damage because Humans are one of my favored enemies." The DM, knowing that the Human is actually a Rakshasa under disguise tells the player, "You dont get your FE bonus." Unless there is some other reason that prevents a Rangers FE bonus, the players would be suspicious at least, and be able to work out that their target is not truly Human. Or, the other way around. The party is fighting an Orc. The Ranger does not have Orcs as Favored Enemy, but he does have "Fey". When the Ranger hits the Orc (which is a Pixie in disguise), the DM tells the player, "You can add your FE bonus for Fey creatures." Ba-ding!! The players are alerted that something is amiss. Any thoughts on this? B [/QUOTE]

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