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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6604267" data-attributes="member: 6689464">I mass quoted because they are basically the same arguments. There is just so much to say. I love the Favored Soul, it fixes the class for me. And I guess it kind of overshadows the other sorcerers, but it does it in a good way. The problem with the other origins is not that they are underpowered, just not very versatile and thematically are kind of icky -what do you prefer "I'm a walking timebomb" "I look like a monster" or "I'm a beautiful chosen of the gods"?-. I find it funny that when the PHB came out I said that the sorcerer was very weak, but was silenced by a majority who said "overpowered, powerful alpha damage!", and now people are admitting they weren't as desirable as they seemed. Ok, with that out of the way, the subclass was genius, because it isn't a single subclass, it is six subclasses by the price of one. Even with life domain you have two options, go all buffs and utility for a classic Favored Soul -in which case the obvious comparison is the cleric and bard-  or mix it up with more arcane spells for a Mystic Theurge, the other options create other flavors of sorcerer and allow for the one thing that sorcerer was best at -being a magical specialist-, yes you get more spell options at each level, but you can only cast so many spells at the same time, and in half the cases the extra spells are for out of combat utility, the classic example of giving up combat prowess for utility. And that is what it is, an utility subclass, the extra weapons armor and extra attack are so you have covered the basics of combat so you contribute and then you are free to go all utility. Or you can go gish. Anyway they said the phb is set in stone, and if they can't change the other two subclasses, should the class remain weak? players who found the other two subclasses perfectly fun will still find them fun, and players like me who hated them are now happy. I don't get what the fuss is about.</blockquote>

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