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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5151990" data-attributes="member: 82504">Its about definitions not warring. Basically what is reasonable varies based on your core assumption about what a hp means... if it includes those elements of stress and fatigue and similar... and baseline hit points are higher .. I have much fewer problems with a cat doing abstract hp damage on a great roll when baseline hit points are higher I kind of think its going to be pointlessly infrequent even if the numbers work out.  Nyeah I have two cats one of which does have mouser instincts and I play reflex games with her I dont feel slow even doing Kendo with 18 years olds  and my mass is 20 x hers and my reach 5x if you dont have 6 cats against even half way competent combatants its a silly notion.... but that is just my sense of reality being different than yours.The baseline assumptions about competence vary across the editions but this is one I think even the least case works.Works for me, though for some who like  the gambling game ...any system increasing hit points takes some of that away.. porportionately less of the hit points you deliver are due to dice impact than ability or strategic choices in play. Nailed down rules could be composed derived from the swarm rules perhaps that work just fine in 3e... these would indeed be the same answer 4e provides for the issue... some people like rolling hand fulls of dice..but you were the one talking about how scale is exactly what you want to defeat.To me you are keeping heavy unscalable mechanics instead of defeating them.Sure and  "No, and why would we?" are indeed my answer. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

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