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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9367497" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>My AD&D DM really likes the rules for what spells you can get from a deity- he likes to point out that if one believes strongly enough, you can get 1st and 2nd levels spells from a <strong>rock</strong>!</p><p></p><p>Not <em>The</em> Rock, mind you, a rock.</p><p></p><p>Those rules existed in 2e as well, I'm pretty sure, but by the time of Powers and Pantheons/Faiths and Avatars, that was pretty much ignored, as the mythos priests could get high level spells as granted powers which wouldn't be possible if they couldn't grant those spells...though I admit, without going back and checking, for all I know they did take that into account.</p><p></p><p>But hey, talking about Priests and forgotten rules, how about the time the Complete Priest's Handbook came to the conclusion the Cleric was OP, spent pages and pages on balanced Specialty Priesthoods for just about any religion under the sun, completely contradicting Legends and Lore (and was therefore subsequently ignored in Demihuman Deities and other books going forward)!</p><p></p><p>Another fun thing is that, according to the Complete Priest's Handbook, when multiclassing, you can substitute "Cleric" for "Priest" and vice versa to determine available multiclass options. Some books follow this convention, others don't (The Complete Planeswalker's Handbook does for example).</p><p></p><p>Which gets wacky with certain mythos priests, such as ones that can explicitly multiclass or gain powers of another class...but even more weird is that the CPH states Druids are a specialty priesthood (indeed, the PHB makes this claim as well), but Druids have different multiclass options than Clerics!</p><p></p><p>It's like the occasionally allowed (even by Gary Gygax himself!) but technically illegal Ranger/Druid- Half-Elves can be Ranger/Clerics or Fighter/Druids, but not Ranger/Druids- but then the CPH is like "But any time it says Cleric it means Priest, and of course Druids are Priests!".</p><p></p><p>Thus you could be a Ranger Druid...right? Who knows!</p><p></p><p>Ask your DM, I guess!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9367497, member: 6877472"] My AD&D DM really likes the rules for what spells you can get from a deity- he likes to point out that if one believes strongly enough, you can get 1st and 2nd levels spells from a [B]rock[/B]! Not [I]The[/I] Rock, mind you, a rock. Those rules existed in 2e as well, I'm pretty sure, but by the time of Powers and Pantheons/Faiths and Avatars, that was pretty much ignored, as the mythos priests could get high level spells as granted powers which wouldn't be possible if they couldn't grant those spells...though I admit, without going back and checking, for all I know they did take that into account. But hey, talking about Priests and forgotten rules, how about the time the Complete Priest's Handbook came to the conclusion the Cleric was OP, spent pages and pages on balanced Specialty Priesthoods for just about any religion under the sun, completely contradicting Legends and Lore (and was therefore subsequently ignored in Demihuman Deities and other books going forward)! Another fun thing is that, according to the Complete Priest's Handbook, when multiclassing, you can substitute "Cleric" for "Priest" and vice versa to determine available multiclass options. Some books follow this convention, others don't (The Complete Planeswalker's Handbook does for example). Which gets wacky with certain mythos priests, such as ones that can explicitly multiclass or gain powers of another class...but even more weird is that the CPH states Druids are a specialty priesthood (indeed, the PHB makes this claim as well), but Druids have different multiclass options than Clerics! It's like the occasionally allowed (even by Gary Gygax himself!) but technically illegal Ranger/Druid- Half-Elves can be Ranger/Clerics or Fighter/Druids, but not Ranger/Druids- but then the CPH is like "But any time it says Cleric it means Priest, and of course Druids are Priests!". Thus you could be a Ranger Druid...right? Who knows! Ask your DM, I guess! [/QUOTE]
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