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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9384481" data-attributes="member: 7026594">The spider on the shoulder thing I always took as an improvisation to resolve the issue of a tiny monster being ON a man-sized PC, or primarily as color, adding a greater sense of visceral danger and plausibility to the threat of the small spider- &quot;IT'S ON ME!&quot;&nbsp; Regular grappling wouldn't even apply due to the large size difference, and there were no other rules for creatures sharing space, so that ruling got them out of that lacuna quickly.Non-weapon proficiencies, you mean. Weapon proficiencies are in there. The 1979 DMG has Secondary Skills, but no rules for making checks with them.&nbsp; NWP don't show up until Oriental Adventures in 1985, followed by the DSG and WSG in '86.Ability checks didn't make it into a core A/D&amp;D book until 1981 Moldvay Basic, though I suspect they had been around for a while as a house rule in various campaigns.Ring of Invisibility. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9384481, member: 7026594"] The spider on the shoulder thing I always took as an improvisation to resolve the issue of a tiny monster being ON a man-sized PC, or primarily as color, adding a greater sense of visceral danger and plausibility to the threat of the small spider- "IT'S ON ME!" Regular grappling wouldn't even apply due to the large size difference, and there were no other rules for creatures sharing space, so that ruling got them out of that lacuna quickly. Non-weapon proficiencies, you mean. Weapon proficiencies are in there. The 1979 DMG has Secondary Skills, but no rules for making checks with them. NWP don't show up until Oriental Adventures in 1985, followed by the DSG and WSG in '86. Ability checks didn't make it into a core A/D&D book until 1981 Moldvay Basic, though I suspect they had been around for a while as a house rule in various campaigns. Ring of Invisibility. :) [/QUOTE]

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