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<blockquote data-quote="bykov" data-source="post: 5023897" data-attributes="member: 7636">I was looking over the lilitu for a potential adventure to Shendilavri and I noticed something very incongruent....which is unfortunately typical of 3.5 editting <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The ritual to transform involves a succubus to lead the ritual in a church full of mislead worshippers and then it casting Gate either by spell or scroll. Now if she were casting she would need to be a 17th level cleric. Or, if she were using Use Magic Device, she would need to hit s DC 37 on the skill check. Which in the grand scheme of things, she would be better off gaining the 17 levels of cleric.So assuming a bare minimum 6 racial HD, this would give the succubus 23 HD. Alas, the lilitu has 14 HD and is an effective 9th level cleric.I don't know if I am just venting or asking for insight. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Bykov.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bykov, post: 5023897, member: 7636"] I was looking over the lilitu for a potential adventure to Shendilavri and I noticed something very incongruent....which is unfortunately typical of 3.5 editting ;) The ritual to transform involves a succubus to lead the ritual in a church full of mislead worshippers and then it casting Gate either by spell or scroll. Now if she were casting she would need to be a 17th level cleric. Or, if she were using Use Magic Device, she would need to hit s DC 37 on the skill check. Which in the grand scheme of things, she would be better off gaining the 17 levels of cleric. So assuming a bare minimum 6 racial HD, this would give the succubus 23 HD. Alas, the lilitu has 14 HD and is an effective 9th level cleric. I don't know if I am just venting or asking for insight. ;) Bykov. [/QUOTE]

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