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<blockquote data-quote="Igwilly" data-source="post: 7217220" data-attributes="member: 6801225"><p>[MENTION=22362]MoutonRustique[/MENTION] Most of these ideas are good; you could test them in a 4e hack/house-ruled variant.</p><p>One thing you can use about immunities is the weapon vs implement dichotomy of 4e.</p><p></p><p>About level drain: well, I like the concept of your life force being drained away, and being hard to get back. Loss of levels or abilities is not something I cherish. I mean, it’s not a crime or sin or something like that, but if I create my own system, I would avoid this option. Dealing with Constitution points, Healing Surges or even HP in a permanent (until reversed) way seems to be cool and fine for me.</p><p> [MENTION=996]Tony Vargas[/MENTION] I do not know what else I need to say about “save ends” effects. They’re supposed to be very nasty, but they fall short of it.</p><p>I have seen this tactics in regeneration with werewolves and to some extend with vampires, and I need to say it wasn’t enough. Enough in this case means: possessing such material is not nearly as important as it should be. In order to recover from the damage of an entire party, a werewolf would need to have a VERY strong regeneration. </p><p>I am aware about this explanation. I saw it in Open Grave or something. I just don’t buy it. It’s obviously a hand-wave just because the designers were so adamant about not giving immunities to monsters.</p><p>You see, I understand that many of the issues with 4e come from the fact that 4e was trying hard to fix some mistakes of 3.X. However, a new edition is not supposed to only counter attack problems of the previous edition: it’s also supposed to not generate too many new problems while doing that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Igwilly, post: 7217220, member: 6801225"] [MENTION=22362]MoutonRustique[/MENTION] Most of these ideas are good; you could test them in a 4e hack/house-ruled variant. One thing you can use about immunities is the weapon vs implement dichotomy of 4e. About level drain: well, I like the concept of your life force being drained away, and being hard to get back. Loss of levels or abilities is not something I cherish. I mean, it’s not a crime or sin or something like that, but if I create my own system, I would avoid this option. Dealing with Constitution points, Healing Surges or even HP in a permanent (until reversed) way seems to be cool and fine for me. [MENTION=996]Tony Vargas[/MENTION] I do not know what else I need to say about “save ends” effects. They’re supposed to be very nasty, but they fall short of it. I have seen this tactics in regeneration with werewolves and to some extend with vampires, and I need to say it wasn’t enough. Enough in this case means: possessing such material is not nearly as important as it should be. In order to recover from the damage of an entire party, a werewolf would need to have a VERY strong regeneration. I am aware about this explanation. I saw it in Open Grave or something. I just don’t buy it. It’s obviously a hand-wave just because the designers were so adamant about not giving immunities to monsters. You see, I understand that many of the issues with 4e come from the fact that 4e was trying hard to fix some mistakes of 3.X. However, a new edition is not supposed to only counter attack problems of the previous edition: it’s also supposed to not generate too many new problems while doing that. [/QUOTE]
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