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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1394918" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>Yeah, okay, I kinda blew up there.</p><p></p><p>*takes three or four big deep breaths*</p><p></p><p>Sorry about that.</p><p></p><p>I guess from my point of view, the "Big Moneybags Who Doesn't Care About Anything But The Bottom Line" is just as naive as the "Everyone Wants To Hug Each Other". People go into business for all sorts of reasons -- but very, very few people are in any aspect of the publishing business because they want to make buckets of money. Because by and large, there aren't buckets of money to be made printing stuff and shipping it to people who want to read it. If you want to make quick bucks, publishing ain't the business to be in.</p><p></p><p>That said, the idea that successful business owners don't consider the thoughts and needs of their customers is even more naive. They won't do everything every customer ever asks them to do, of course, because that's flat-out impossible, but anyone running a business that they have any interest in maintaining over the longer term HAS to listen to their customers. Successful businesses have one thing in common: really happy customers.</p><p></p><p>Lots of people run businesses under terms they know perfectly well aren't optimal -- because they love what they do. And lots of businesses run that way are perfectly successful. They don't make huge whacks of cash, but the people running them DO make enough of a profit to keep at it, and they get to spend their time on stuff that matters to them. I couldn't possibly speculate on what sort of people run Paizo -- but like I say, very few smart people go into publishing because they want quick bucks.</p><p></p><p>I never said anything about whether or not combining the magazine was the cause of the later success -- all I wanted to make sure was clear was that the people closest to the data (who are also the people with the most reason to want to paint the truth in a certain light, I'll grant you) are saying something very specific -- both magazines were losing money. It seemed to me (and I have to admit, that reading your post now, I'm not sure why -- you don't seem to be saying this at all anymore, but boy I sure THOUGHT you did <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />) that you were saying the magazines probably WERE viable enterprises as they had stood.</p><p></p><p>My apologies. Not sure what happened there - having kind of a crazy bad day at work, I guess. I'll go post enthusiastic comments in your storyhour, how's that? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1394918, member: 812"] Yeah, okay, I kinda blew up there. *takes three or four big deep breaths* Sorry about that. I guess from my point of view, the "Big Moneybags Who Doesn't Care About Anything But The Bottom Line" is just as naive as the "Everyone Wants To Hug Each Other". People go into business for all sorts of reasons -- but very, very few people are in any aspect of the publishing business because they want to make buckets of money. Because by and large, there aren't buckets of money to be made printing stuff and shipping it to people who want to read it. If you want to make quick bucks, publishing ain't the business to be in. That said, the idea that successful business owners don't consider the thoughts and needs of their customers is even more naive. They won't do everything every customer ever asks them to do, of course, because that's flat-out impossible, but anyone running a business that they have any interest in maintaining over the longer term HAS to listen to their customers. Successful businesses have one thing in common: really happy customers. Lots of people run businesses under terms they know perfectly well aren't optimal -- because they love what they do. And lots of businesses run that way are perfectly successful. They don't make huge whacks of cash, but the people running them DO make enough of a profit to keep at it, and they get to spend their time on stuff that matters to them. I couldn't possibly speculate on what sort of people run Paizo -- but like I say, very few smart people go into publishing because they want quick bucks. I never said anything about whether or not combining the magazine was the cause of the later success -- all I wanted to make sure was clear was that the people closest to the data (who are also the people with the most reason to want to paint the truth in a certain light, I'll grant you) are saying something very specific -- both magazines were losing money. It seemed to me (and I have to admit, that reading your post now, I'm not sure why -- you don't seem to be saying this at all anymore, but boy I sure THOUGHT you did :D) that you were saying the magazines probably WERE viable enterprises as they had stood. My apologies. Not sure what happened there - having kind of a crazy bad day at work, I guess. I'll go post enthusiastic comments in your storyhour, how's that? :D [/QUOTE]
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