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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doctor Proctor" data-source="post: 4560225" data-attributes="member: 78547">Yes, this has always annoyed me too.  Also, Plate providing a Higher AC isn't much of a justification.  Scale and Plate are one point apart, one point, yet with Scale Spec you get +14AC and no penalties and with Plate you get +15AC and -2 check and -1AC.  That's with PHB armor, but the Adventurer's Vault items mitigate this somewhat.  High level Scale and Plate have the same AC, but Plate does get Resist 5 all for Tarrasque Plate.  Although, that comes at a cost of it only being +12AC armor, or +13AC with armor spec.  So you're sacrificing 2AC points to be at the same AC as similar level Scale armor, and you get a -2 check and a -1 to speed.The additional kick in the pants is that Scale and Plate require different abilities.  If you're going for a heavy CON Defender, you're kinda screwed, because Scale requires DEX of 15, whereas Plate requires CON of 15.  So if you wanted to go Scale Spec to get rid of your penalties, you can't, unless you sacrifice some of your CON and/or WIS.</blockquote>