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Feat Chains are Incompatible with Easy CharGen + 1st Lev Feats
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<blockquote data-quote="MoutonRustique(Real)" data-source="post: 8745268" data-attributes="member: 7032563"><p>IMO feat chains should be <em>thematic chains</em>, not 'power chains'.</p><p>Feat A is about as useful and power as other feats available at the given time.</p><p>Feat B (which is a 'follow up') to feat A, is about as useful and powerful as other feats available at the given time.</p><p></p><p>Having A be weaker because B is stronger is a form of 'balance' that harkens back to much earlier editions where a Wizard was a [carry] class and then became the [awesome] class if it survived long enough. You have to be bad <em>now</em> (for who knows how long) to be better <em>then</em>.</p><p></p><p>Which leads to the obvious problem of : well, if you're <em>stronger</em> [then], that can easily lead to problems at the table - seeing as you're stronger that the other players. If you're <em>not</em> stronger [then], then why did you have to be <em>weaker</em> [before]... ?</p><p></p><p>This type of approach works very well when the delay between the time-states is small. In 5e, the delay between the acquisition of feats, is not quick enough to make this work IMO. And that's not even talking about the fact that [then] might never happen...</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Of course, some people enjoy this approach - or have the conditions required to have it be fun - and good on them. But I do not wish for the general game to be headed in this direction.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoutonRustique(Real), post: 8745268, member: 7032563"] IMO feat chains should be [I]thematic chains[/I], not 'power chains'. Feat A is about as useful and power as other feats available at the given time. Feat B (which is a 'follow up') to feat A, is about as useful and powerful as other feats available at the given time. Having A be weaker because B is stronger is a form of 'balance' that harkens back to much earlier editions where a Wizard was a [carry] class and then became the [awesome] class if it survived long enough. You have to be bad [I]now[/I] (for who knows how long) to be better [I]then[/I]. Which leads to the obvious problem of : well, if you're [I]stronger[/I] [then], that can easily lead to problems at the table - seeing as you're stronger that the other players. If you're [I]not[/I] stronger [then], then why did you have to be [I]weaker[/I] [before]... ? This type of approach works very well when the delay between the time-states is small. In 5e, the delay between the acquisition of feats, is not quick enough to make this work IMO. And that's not even talking about the fact that [then] might never happen... [SIZE=3]Of course, some people enjoy this approach - or have the conditions required to have it be fun - and good on them. But I do not wish for the general game to be headed in this direction.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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