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<blockquote data-quote="AeroDm" data-source="post: 1257740" data-attributes="member: 13650">I like Morgenstern's the best of what I've seen thus far.&nbsp; Three feats as the 1st level of the class is jsut too attractive not to take it, but one feat/level really isn't enough with 1/2 BAB, no good save, et al.&nbsp; I think d6 is fine though, primarily because I agree with MC that d4 are a mistake in the game.Regardless, I am not so sure it is a good idea to ever create a class such as this.&nbsp; With the variety of feats available, you are basically giving the green-flag to come up with a power combo of their choosing.&nbsp; I doubt many people would be dropping feats into Toughness and Lightning Reflexes to make up for what they lost in the multiclass, but rather would be taking some obscure chain of feats that mix to create a very annoying, very powerful character.As has been said, classes exist as bundles of abilities that could be turned into feats.&nbsp; Some of the abilities are better than others, and you hope for a balance.&nbsp; This class has no bundle.&nbsp; People won't take abilities that are worse than others.&nbsp; You will create a super-bundle, and super bundles suck.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AeroDm, post: 1257740, member: 13650"] I like Morgenstern's the best of what I've seen thus far. Three feats as the 1st level of the class is jsut too attractive not to take it, but one feat/level really isn't enough with 1/2 BAB, no good save, et al. I think d6 is fine though, primarily because I agree with MC that d4 are a mistake in the game. Regardless, I am not so sure it is a good idea to ever create a class such as this. With the variety of feats available, you are basically giving the green-flag to come up with a power combo of their choosing. I doubt many people would be dropping feats into Toughness and Lightning Reflexes to make up for what they lost in the multiclass, but rather would be taking some obscure chain of feats that mix to create a very annoying, very powerful character. As has been said, classes exist as bundles of abilities that could be turned into feats. Some of the abilities are better than others, and you hope for a balance. This class has no bundle. People won't take abilities that are worse than others. You will create a super-bundle, and super bundles suck. [/QUOTE]

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