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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 2310181" data-attributes="member: 7211">This seems to be a small point. I mean honestly, no it isn't a perfect fit flavor-wise, but this is the same game where people hurl fireballs, raise the dead, and slay dragons right? If it helps serve someone's concept, what difference does it make if the crunch-to-fluff isn't dead on?Dodge, Combat Expertise, and Mobility all stack with armor (and each other).How many duelists, unfettered, and their ilk don't have at least a +2 bonus to those bennies? It *is* free AC bonuses, and if you build around their concepts they can be *high free AC bonuses*. The reason those bonuses exist is because they are always limited by the armor they can wear (IIRC Light Armor).They can wear bucklers, and you're right. The proposed feats do NOT stack with armor, you can file them away with Unfettered/Duelists/Ilk. The difference is that instead of making a feat that grants you an unnamed AC bonus based on an attribute, they get ARMOR bonuses (thus not horseshoeing any potential unarmored fighter concepts).Put your money where your mouth is - Break the feats I suggested.I don't appreciate the derision, because I don't think there is much sensible about D&amp;D's combat system except that it resolves things somewhat quickly and fairly.Technik</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 2310181, member: 7211"] This seems to be a small point. I mean honestly, no it isn't a perfect fit flavor-wise, but this is the same game where people hurl fireballs, raise the dead, and slay dragons right? If it helps serve someone's concept, what difference does it make if the crunch-to-fluff isn't dead on? Dodge, Combat Expertise, and Mobility all stack with armor (and each other). How many duelists, unfettered, and their ilk don't have at least a +2 bonus to those bennies? It *is* free AC bonuses, and if you build around their concepts they can be *high free AC bonuses*. The reason those bonuses exist is because they are always limited by the armor they can wear (IIRC Light Armor). They can wear bucklers, and you're right. The proposed feats do NOT stack with armor, you can file them away with Unfettered/Duelists/Ilk. The difference is that instead of making a feat that grants you an unnamed AC bonus based on an attribute, they get ARMOR bonuses (thus not horseshoeing any potential unarmored fighter concepts). Put your money where your mouth is - Break the feats I suggested. I don't appreciate the derision, because I don't think there is much sensible about D&D's combat system except that it resolves things somewhat quickly and fairly. Technik [/QUOTE]

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