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<blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4608887" data-attributes="member: 4722">I was going to suggest simply assigning values like 1, 2, or 4 (or 2/4/6) to each, then I got caught up in my ramble. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I agree.Interesting idea. Have you noticed that fighters get Martial Weapon Proficiency with ALL martial weapons, but the MWP feat adds only ONE? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Diehard isn't all that valuable itself; I'd say value them both at 1-2, so you can buy them at the same time.Same with fighter feats - anything that requires a specific class ability, or a level in a specific class, should be lower cost (see below).&nbsp;&quot;Gateway feats&quot;, those that are prereqs for&nbsp; many other feats, like Power Attack, Combat Expertise, etc., could be 4 pt feats while all of the feats in their chain are 2 pt feats. Simple fix to that is add a BAB requirement. The upper-level ones have one; just boost TWF to BAB +6, ITWF to +11, GTWF to +16, and ditch Perfect TWF - that way it's harder to get the feats, AND you're limited to 3 attacks with the off hand. Hmm... I think I'll do that myself.+1/level is still more useful than a flat +3, though I probably wouldn't value it much higher - the +3 version rates about a 1, IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kerrick, post: 4608887, member: 4722"] I was going to suggest simply assigning values like 1, 2, or 4 (or 2/4/6) to each, then I got caught up in my ramble. :p I agree. Interesting idea. Have you noticed that fighters get Martial Weapon Proficiency with ALL martial weapons, but the MWP feat adds only ONE? :D Diehard isn't all that valuable itself; I'd say value them both at 1-2, so you can buy them at the same time. Same with fighter feats - anything that requires a specific class ability, or a level in a specific class, should be lower cost (see below). "Gateway feats", those that are prereqs for many other feats, like Power Attack, Combat Expertise, etc., could be 4 pt feats while all of the feats in their chain are 2 pt feats. Simple fix to that is add a BAB requirement. The upper-level ones have one; just boost TWF to BAB +6, ITWF to +11, GTWF to +16, and ditch Perfect TWF - that way it's harder to get the feats, AND you're limited to 3 attacks with the off hand. Hmm... I think I'll do that myself. +1/level is still more useful than a flat +3, though I probably wouldn't value it much higher - the +3 version rates about a 1, IMO. [/QUOTE]

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